Posts by snare&racket

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We got a letter addressed to Barbara Anderson and my husband!

by 3rdgen in

no kidding!

the return address is the po box for the local kh.

the letter was addressed: .

snare&racket

Her way of maybe hinting she knows you are here? Or maybe reaching out for some TATT subtly, but with cognitive impairment.

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Pand€mi£ Contribution$

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

hi everyone, hope all are well :).

just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?.

i obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the wt org.. can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in kh's.. i was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the world wide work and kh fund.

snare&racket

Hi everyone, hope all are well :)

Just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?

I obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the WT org.

Can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in KH's.

I was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the World Wide Work and KH Fund. They had just started heavily pushing gift aid (charity tax benefit in UK).

Thank you!

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"I still miss it Dad" My 41 Year Son Admitted

by 1234 in

jw
friends

on the 18th of september i turned in my disassociation letter in to the tigard congregation, 19 years ago.. my son turned in his letter in november 2001, 19 years ago shortly after me.

he was 21 years old.. two days ago we were working together on a wrap for his a/c unit on his bus.. out of blue, he says "i still miss it dad.

not the religion.

snare&racket

True friends don't care what you believe, they were religious acquaintances with conditional friendship. Sad but true.

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UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising

by goingthruthemotions in

ughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.

our future together doesn't look promising .

i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.

snare&racket

Maybe use her momentum towards JW colleague approval and use it to 'get to the heart of all the doctrines"....

If she really is intelligent it won't take too long.

"That's strange isn't it dear, every historian disagrees with this JW belief, I wonder why that is? ...." etc etc etc

"Oh wouldn't it be exciting to read Russell's predictions in print...." etc etc etc

"These apostates and their child abuse lies, let's watch the court case for ourselves so we can defend the faith with vigour...."

JW doctrine does not stand up to any consideration or research.

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How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger

by Zeds Dead in

raised as a jo blow and married into it.

37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.

bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.

snare&racket

We are the lucky ones pal. Most people that were fellow JW kids back then are now saying the same harmful bs to their own JW kids.

You untangled it, you saw it for the lies it was and have escaped,

Enjoy being free, don't look back with anger ;) . Our horrid past is someone's horrid reality today.

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Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?

by minimus in

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friends

i understand it’s a cult.

but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??

?.

snare&racket

Cognitive dissonance

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Treating JW's with Convalescent Blood Products

by Lee Elder in

this is potentially life saving information.

please spread the word.. http://ajwrb.org/treating-jehovahs-witness-covid-19-patients-with-convalescent-blood-products.

treating jehovah’s witness covid-19 patients with convalescent blood products.

snare&racket

Interesting, but I see many obstacles.

Firstly, just something that immediately stood out as unsubstantiated, there is no evidence that COVID 19 is " reportedly taking a heavy toll among JW’s." Be careful what you write if you want to be taken seriously, especially right now. The virus has likely genetic prejudices, but non faith based.

The biggest issue "Implementing this treatment will likely require cooperation with a blood bank processing convalescent plasma to take the additional step of separating the plasma into the separate products of cryoprecipitate and cryosupernatant..."

As someone that interacts with blood bank often, this is an absurd ask. Requesting blood bank to alter the plasma is wildly unlikely, you mention it, as a casual request, It would need it's own testing/screening process before it could be used as a treatment in COVID 19.

JW's arrive with pre-filled advanced directives with what they will accept and any attempt at the bedside to discuss biology/medicine often goes exactly as you imagine it would.

The patients requiring this treatment are tending to arrive incredibly unwell and require acute intubation, leaving their treatment options to the NOK to decide. The blood/blood product debacle of the JW's is difficult to comprehend and dissect at the best of times, in an emergency, it is unlikely to bend, especially via the NOK who will not want to break the religious confidences of their sick loved one.

I think your motives and efforts are admirable, to ask people to disseminate this to hospitals is ill advised however.

The autonomy of the individual trump's all. They will accept and decline treatments as per their conscience. Hospitals have HLC's that JW's may opt to introduce into their care is they so wish. I would never advocate that they introduce untrained, unqualified religious figures to aid in clinical decision making, Informed autonomy should be patient based and it is for the patient to research and decide ALWAYS, if having capacity.

Me telling a patient what they can and can't have as per doctrine, is no different to WT telling them what they can and can't have. It is a doctrinal game I would never play.

At the end of the day, JW's are not interested in the biology, the medicine, the science. They are only interested in what WT say's is true and acceptable.

I am not WT.

The hospitals are not WT

Write to WT if you want them to discuss this with JW's. Doctors are not ministers and hospitals will never take on the roll of religious advisors. You are asking that we try to convince using WT literature that they can have a product (not yet provided anywhere) even if they think they can't.

Isolated cases may prove fruitful but in the middle of a pandemic, this is not the duty of an already stretched healthcare system.

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Dating Advice

by Youngaposthate in

as a young person who hasn't had lots of experience in the dating game, what would ex jws recommend with all these severed relationship ties from family.

what are the do's and dont's.

snare&racket

Maybe get to know yourself first and in the meantime see what life brings.

Don't over think it.

The key is to be yourself, but if you are young and recently out of the JW's then mission one is to 'know thyself'....

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My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

brothers and sisters associated with the watchtower society may 9, 2020. i have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.

but my efforts have remained fruitless.

you well know the biblical procedure.

snare&racket

I'm sad for you, sincerely, that you think they would give this a seconds thought.

These men decide the doctrines and interpretations, they know how ambiguous it all is.

They don't care.

They wan't continuity and to keep their authority.

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Does prophesy negate free will?

by Tim207 in

not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

snare&racket

What did you eat for breakfast today? What colour socks did you put on? What was your first words spoken?

if we pressed rewind and wiped your memory and pressed play, letting you 'free' to make those choices over again, what would you eat, pick, say?

The most logical answer is you would pick the same breakfast.... the INFLUENCES that led you to 'banana pancake' the first time around would lesd you to the exact same choice every time. The same events would lead to you saying the same first words.

We may hate to admit it, but logically, we ride a wave of influences and our 'choices' were always going to take place.... most interestingly..... from external influence sources.

We are not delving into a mythical psyche to ask what socks to wear, the many influences from cultural to chemical to experiential etc..... that led your mood, preference, and availability to picking 'fluffy orange' were all external.

I see no evidence for free will.......

Which is most ironically not what my free will would prefer....