Yes indeed on the way out.... I would bring lists....
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Miami Has New Young Partakers
by James Jackson insnapper creek (miami, fl) congregation, had 2 pioneers (female), partake at the memorial for the first time.
one is 20 years old, the other 23.. the gt delayed again!!
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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I feeel deep sorrow for you, you must be in hurrendous turmoil and distress. For whatever reason you stay or for whoever you love and wait for, I hope it changes soon or they awaken soon.
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Ayahuasca / DMT.... anyone else curious?
by snare&racket inever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
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Before you sip a beer how do you know whether you have underlying addictive personality?
You are talking to someone that doesnt drink and never does drugs. I have never smoked a cigarette even. BUT I live by the merits of freedom and liberalism, BUT it should be fair. The professor who advised the governemnt on drugs was sacked after openly vocalaising the evidence on cannabis, that it was safer than horse riding.
Fear mongering and quoting reefer madness and watchtower thinking doesn't work in the real world.
It has just dawned on me that I haven't qualified something.....& to be fair it was a shock to my JW tinted glasses also when I found out....most people and I really mean MOST people, consume drugs. Cannabis, MDMA, Cocaine are consumed like alcohol or tobacco in the world today. Professionals consume LSD derivitives to stay focused and awake, students consume ritalin for high grades, cocaine is deeply part of the professional world.
The anti drug campaign from watchtower and Barbara Bush not only didnt work in the real world, but was bias and fear mongering, which makes educating the youth even harder.
Psychadelics are on come back and the science is way behind the curve!
As for my agenda, I do have a huge interest in the science of such mechanisms but I won't lie, the experiences sound interesting, thats why people take it, as Obama said regarding cannabis inhalation...."that's kinda the point!"
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Ayahuasca / DMT.... anyone else curious?
by snare&racket inever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
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Galaxie, not everyone has the luxury of avoiding medication.
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Why get upset with the new WT donation system? It will still be a success...
by suavojr inwhen the wt went from charging for literature to voluntary donations, they took a hit but still survived.. i frankly see them having a high success once this new donation system is in place.
it will be a success and no dissenter or closet apostate will be able to stop it.
because although we hate the wt and would love to see them disappear, we cannot forget the ones inside will gladly donate, donate, donate.. just look at other churches!
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For me, it is just another element of the religion I no longer recognise, we were proud to say we asked for no money, were not expected to give money and had no obligations to hand over money. People always asked us as JW's because it is an obvious alterior motive.
Now things are going to change and it will be a hard sell to explain a monthly pledge from each household to a very wealthy organisation.
There is not one person on earth who can explain and defent why the god of the universe needs....your cash!
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Shark Evolution
by metatron inhttp://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.
i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
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Beautifully put ! I really owe that man much. Does anyone remember the Telegraph and Guardian giving away little books on topics such as philosophy, quantum physics etc about 5 years ago. That little book on philosophy explained Plato's concept with a table and it made no sense as I could not think of a real world application of people having such a perspective, then Dawkins hit the nail on the head...boom.
Thank you Cofty xxxx
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Ayahuasca / DMT.... anyone else curious?
by snare&racket inever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
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I wasn't judging you for perhaos not seeing/telling one, forgive me, I was just wondering if there was anyone monitoring your health over the time period of your use.
Thank you for answering , may I ask how you found out about it in the first place and what evidence, reading, research did you do before hand ?
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144,000 in Revelation May not be Referring to Individuals at all!
by objectivetruth ini'm testing a theory.. so many people discuss whether or not 144,000 is a literal number.. i want to discuss, what if 144,000 is not a number of individuals, rather a number of groups of people.. .
while there is no unanimous acceptance or truth, some believe that the book if revelation was written in hebrew originally.
my theory is based in this possibility.
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I remember reading the verses as a child and saw the obvious math, twelve representatives iof the twelve tribes = 144
With emphasis 144,000 was said, just like jesus and his forgiving people 77 times, it is an issue of poetic license from the writer, along with the dragons and wild beasts with several heads and horns and lakes of fire etc etc etc...
Just my uninformed, ignorant opinion, but it seemed obvious as a kid, knowing the times tables.... 12x12 = 144
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Shark Evolution
by metatron inhttp://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.
i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
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Was it something about rabbits cofty? He said it better, I remember he discussed a bell shaped curve and that the average appearance for a species over its time on earth. I believe he offered this as the best we could argue in setting a 'blueprint' or 'gold standard'. It is a very, very potent point as it proves Genesis & the Noah account as pure hogwash.
If god made animals as kinds in their form.... then what the hell are all those other kinds buried under us that change in charachter as we dig further and further back in time, until the species at the end of the spectrum is totally different from the one we began with..... otherwise known as.... TA DA...
E V O L U T I O N
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Ayahuasca / DMT.... anyone else curious?
by snare&racket inever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
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Have you ever told your doctor about your use and experiences?