take away the JW element and imagine a dude with a leaflet outside a shoe shop telling you where to find the answers to all of life's big questions....
a website....
They have no external perspective, they have no idea how ridiculous they look...
if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .
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take away the JW element and imagine a dude with a leaflet outside a shoe shop telling you where to find the answers to all of life's big questions....
a website....
They have no external perspective, they have no idea how ridiculous they look...
its unbelievable to me that one verse in the bible blows up the entire jw dogma and its amazing to me that with all this bible reading we jw's did we missed it.
even faders and people who quit for many reasons missed it.
what verse am i talking about it verse 9 of chapter 5 of revelations.
OP.....
yeah we were pretty dumb.... temporarily
if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .
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[shudder...]
errrrrr so embarassing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
i wonder if the mansion in Wales (Anglesey) is simply summer accomodation fir the GB member visiting......
They don't even hide it any ire do they.
796 infant skeletons have been found discarded in a septic tank at the former mother and baby home run by the catholic church in ireland between 1925 and 1961.. unwed mothers were sent these "magdelene asylums" to be treated like criminals.
their babies - if they survived - were taken from them.
if they did not survive their bodies were thrown into a septic tank and forgotton.
My goodness....
These, the people that formed the bible and yet what a history! Systematic disregard for life and childhood.
Will the suffering of children ever know limits in this church and the many churches formed from its history and doctrines?
aside from the obvious age discrimination and disrespect, what are other implications of this new rule?.
(persons over 80 years of age cannot serve as a chairman of the body of elders any longer by watchtower fiat).
1) - this means that no one can be a cobe if he was born before 1934. so much for persons alive and in adult understanding of the circumstances in 1914 surviving to the end.
intersting isn't it...
FIRSTLY... It is totally illegal to be ageist, so I wonder how this will pan out legally.
Secondly, they have now assumed the holy spirit is ageist in it's appointments, or that the holy spirit appts have a time limit.
Thirdly, they clearly don't want the older 'generation' who have seen the religion change 180 deg and also become a business, have too much power.
i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
someone mentioned memories...
the latest research confirms theories about sleep and memory a few of us have mentioned here in the past. Interesting stuff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27695144
Sorry, now back on topic.....
i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
sorry...
Also what is the value in taking a poll on the belief of spirit on a religious forum. The data is bias beyond any value........and the answer has nothing to do with reality or truth.
Evidence is everything.
i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
I know it has been clarified,
But to be clear, memories are just connections between your vision, your emotion, your hearing, your taste, etc etc attached to your processing.
A memory is actually physically formed in the brain. People with dementia have a brain that is physically deteriorating, the brain shrinks in size, they lose the neurones.
Memory is physical! It would take 2 mi utes on google or a trip to the library to learn this. How on earth do you think atheists could exist if we had an etherial memory of no physical foundation, or if emotions were not fully explained by the physiology and their effects?
These are all well understood. It is true to say we don't k ow the exact mechanism of how a memory is laid down, but that is due to the difficulty in testing and examining a living brain in real time. It isn't because the physiology is missing,
Trauma and damage to the brain taught us much about how it works, it has been long appreciated that memory is physical, just as it is with a computer. You look at a cd and wonder how info is stored in a physical form....so with a dvd, it stores images, video, music, writing etc.Because we access the memory in what appears an abstract way, we don't see the neurons firing, not until the recent FMRI's could we see them work. Just as with computers etc, memory is stored physically, though in a very different way to computers.we don't have a specific memory region, we make memories by making connections.
Everyone however has had a taste of how memories are laid down, ever heard a song and a smell been sent back 15 years to a specific memory?
When we revise for exams, knowing how memories are made, stored and accessed, we revise in a manner that uses all of the senses. So I draw,
I use colours, I read the words out loud, I make imaginary connections with the words. I even sometimes play songs when revising multiple exams so that nearer the exam I play the same songs again and it works, there will be portions of a song and a very specific and vivid memory from the revision will come to mind, usually something i had to put extra effort into learning.
My point is, these are well understood and all 100% explainable via the physical.
With respect, you are bringing up things long understood. Perhaps have a quick look on a reputable science/medicine/biology site online before you mention it as then you can learn for yourself what we do actually know.
This took 10 seconds to find...
Ask a neurosxientist: How and where are memories stored.
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2012/03/13/daily-circuit-ask-a-neuroscientist
new light: i hear all the time as the armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter.
where in the bible is this supported.
all i could fined is in.
why would a deity lie to his people? also the light seems to get lighter, then darker, then lighter e.g. 'generation'
Is god hopping in and out of the cave?
What of the people who reject on the basis of old light, wrong light?
What is the benefit of releasing the info in this bizzare mannner.....remember unlike light, true information does not hurt your retinas after long periods of darkness...so the analogy stinks...it doesn't fit at all!
JW's only have new light in response to unfulfilled old light...... wow, they are like derren brown...