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  A word unspoken but a bond never broken

  by CAMELOT in

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  to any jw who believes the shunning rules .

  a mother's love.

  a mother's love is something.

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  talesin : What a shame...It's funny how the scriputres on Love in Corinthians only apply to those who are JW's I guess. I do hope you will be able to make peace with her before she does ever pass away. Best of wishes and thank you for the warm welcome. Hope you had a great day!

  clarity : Awww thanks! I don't know how strong I really am..I have not even been announced yet, LOL. I really appreciate the support, it is a hard perdictament to be in. I am going to live the best way I know how. Same to you!!
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  A word unspoken but a bond never broken

  by CAMELOT in

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  to any jw who believes the shunning rules .

  a mother's love.

  a mother's love is something.

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  WOBBLE & SIZEMIK: Those of us who suffer from "breaking free" I believe have lost enough. Let us be determined in finding joy each day. The GB has no clue who we all are, they are scheming each day to keep "mind control" over thier members and then go to bed without giving us a thought. I won't allow them to steal my daughter from me and take all the joy in my life. I have much to live for and Life is a Beautiful gift from God...Not them! I am in my forties but nonetheless, I am proud of you both.

  Camelot ( a place of spiritual enlightenment)
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  A word unspoken but a bond never broken

  by CAMELOT in

  1. jw
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  to any jw who believes the shunning rules .

  a mother's love.

  a mother's love is something.

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  TO ANY JW WHO BELIEVES THE SHUNNING RULES

  A Mother's LoveA Mother's love is something
  that no on can explain,
  It is made of deep devotion
  and of sacrifice and pain,
  It is endless and unselfish
  and enduring come what may
  For nothing can destroy it
  or take that love away . . .
  It is patient and forgiving
  when all others are forsaking,
  And it never fails or falters
  even though the heart is breaking . . .
  It believes beyond believing
  when the world around condemns,
  And it glows with all the beauty
  of the rarest, brightest gems . . .
  It is far beyond defining,
  it defies all explanation,
  And it still remains a secret
  like the mysteries of creation . . .
  A many splendoured miracle
  man cannot understand
  And another wondrous evidence
  of God's tender guiding hand. Helen Steiner Rice.
  
  I am now among the so called apostates now that I DA'ed myself the other day. It wasn't an emotional decision. I did not do any wrong doing. I have a younger child who is turning 5 now, and had to consider getting her into a christian congregation and give her the best life possible. Many will be surprised but--- it was research and evidence in their own literature and publications that showed me this religion is not God's channel of communication. I have an adult daughter still in who is married to a JW. Bottom line GB...she will never feel anything but love for me regardles if she follows the "rules." You cannot take that away
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  What if your Significant Other wanted to become a JW?

  by Dune in

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  today, i was ambushed by a pair of witnesses while leaving my apartment.

  they offered me a magazine, to which i declined, but gave the latest awake & watchtower to my girlfriend.

  at our next stop, i took the magazines, rolled them up and was about to toss them when she told me that she wanted to read them.

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  Found Sheep...I totally understand, that's why I didn't get angry. It is traumatic what power and control they have over their members. It's devasting to find out what a fool one has been and how you wish you could change things. No need to apologize, hope you had a great day!

  Onthewayout...It's nice to be here.

  jgnat...She told us today that she is having a hard time, said she did some research on the WT Library and thinks of me as an Unbeliever rather than an apostate. No one is going to make her hate me. So I am feeling a little better. Wish I could have done a fade, she lives close by and her husband is in the truth and his father is an elder has been there a long time. They all live near by. Thanks for the post.

  ABibleStudent...have the book by R Franz on the way. I was thinking, she isn't allowed to speak to me or hang out with me. However, my husband and my other adult children (not in) can all talk to her about me during a conversation. So in essence she is still going to HEAR how I feel about anything! Like "Mom loved that movie" and they can basically be a voice and an ear for me. No one can tell my family what and how they speak to my daughter, right? My husband can give her things because no one can tell him not to. I am feeling a bit easier now. I don't want her to feel guilty or unhappy so my husband told her today.."Mom would want you to be happy." Then I was thinking every time she has to come pick up our youngest child to spend time with I will smile at her and wink at her every time so she knows I love her. Who can tell me not to wink or smile!!
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  What if your Significant Other wanted to become a JW?

  by Dune in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today, i was ambushed by a pair of witnesses while leaving my apartment.

  they offered me a magazine, to which i declined, but gave the latest awake & watchtower to my girlfriend.

  at our next stop, i took the magazines, rolled them up and was about to toss them when she told me that she wanted to read them.

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  If anyone has someone they love...quickly sit with them on the computer and show evidence of the fallacies commited by the Watchtower. Their own publications and literature expose them. I wish I had done that before every getting involved with this organization. I left but it cost me having my 22 year old daughter who will never speak to me again.
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  What if your Significant Other wanted to become a JW?

  by Dune in

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  today, i was ambushed by a pair of witnesses while leaving my apartment.

  they offered me a magazine, to which i declined, but gave the latest awake & watchtower to my girlfriend.

  at our next stop, i took the magazines, rolled them up and was about to toss them when she told me that she wanted to read them.

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  Dune

  thanks for responding. I am no fraud. I was baptized in 2006 and my daughter followed in 2007. I never looked into the history of this organization and it was a bad time in my life so this was appealing for me. But I began to have doubts once baptized. This year I began researching the internet, ordering books, downloading the WT publications and studied YOUTUBE exeriences. After careful consideration, I knew I could not continue to raise my 5 year old as a witness. I wanted her to have a life and take her to a church she could flourish in. Have the holidays as my other adult children experienced. So It was a choice to either have my adult daughter who is a witness turn me in when she saw how I was raising the little one and ALLOW the society to brand me as disfellowshipped just because I disagreed with their teachings, or would I DA myself so that it's known to all that I don't believe the GB is God's channel of communication. I wanted to set the example to my children that I am against their beliefs and leave without the brand that I commited a non repentant gross sin...I didn't want to give them the satisfaction. My letter has just reached my hall but they have not made my announcement yet.

  Found Sheep: My daughter and I were so very close I cannot put that into words and now she and her husband are going to shun me for as long as I live. The pain I am going through right now I cannot put into words. I found this site hoping to get a cushion to help with the transition. I don't know how they live with themselves knowing the devastation being caused among families and thier loved ones.
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  What if your Significant Other wanted to become a JW?

  by Dune in

  1. jw
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  today, i was ambushed by a pair of witnesses while leaving my apartment.

  they offered me a magazine, to which i declined, but gave the latest awake & watchtower to my girlfriend.

  at our next stop, i took the magazines, rolled them up and was about to toss them when she told me that she wanted to read them.

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  I would be very careful on how to deal with it. I just disassociated myself 3 days ago. Can you tell me what a fade is? I never heard of it until now. I have an adult daughter in the organization and if I drifted away but she found out I was going to another church or saw me celebrating the holidays with my youngest child, wouldn't I be DF'ed anyone even though I had faded away? She would tell the elders and they would DF me, right? How does a fade work?
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  Is there no hope? (daughter getting baptized)

  by camicia in

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  i'm really distraught about the fact my 23 year old daughter is ready to abandon a potential career in writing where her talent lies, and become a jehovah's witness.

  i banned the study being held in our home, but it only hurt my relationship with my daughter, who screamed at me "i pay to live here and i'm not hiding, you're sabotaging my relationship with god!

  " so i gave in.

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  I would tell her in a loving way how you respect her as an adult and she has the right to live her life any way she choses. That you have been emotional and it's because you do love her so much. Ask her if she could do one thing even if she does this in private. Research the history of the Organization for herself so that she will not have any doubts or regrets. Because they do encourage people to do reseach that the preach to and the bible tells us to keep seeking for the truth like a hidden treasure. If the truth is the truth it should be able to withstand any lies. I wish you all the best. I have a daughter that age who I can no longer speak to as of 3 days ago when I disassociated myself after doing so much research. But it came too late, because I had a hand getting her in it and we both got baptized and now she is married to a witness and I will forever feel lost without her, we were very very close. God Bless
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  What keeps a JW in the religion? A new angle.

  by Hobo Ken in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are many reasons why but i wonder if there could be a dominant mental mechanism at work?.

  i've done a bit of research and written this article on the subject.. the comparisons between stockholm's syndrome and jw behaviour are striking.. what keeps a jw in the religion?.

  matt.

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  FEAR...it's a perfect tactic. Preach "Gloom and Doom" to have them come into the organization, then do the SAME to keep them from leaving.
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  What question would you ask a visiting Governing Body Member?

  by pirata in

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  so if a governing body member was visiting your local district convention, and you had the opportunity to ask them a single question, what would it be?.

  assume that you are still an active jw and are not looking to get df'd..

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  I would ask them "Did they ever consider all the things Jesus warned his folllowers about in the scriptures pertained to THEM?"