When you unquestioningly follow what the leaders say because doing so is necessary for your eternal salvation....then......you're in a cult
outsmartthesystem
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Can someone explain who and what a COBE does?
by lost1 inhave searched but if someone can explain it in simple terms that would be great.. thank you.
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l1.
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outsmartthesystem
A very tasty cut of beef
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Does anyone have copies of Cease and Desist letters sent to elders from a LAWYER?
by Greybeard injust preparing and looking for information.
i suspect i will be under the gun soon as a close friend of mine already is.
they are asking him to meet with them as they have "witnesses to his apostacy".
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outsmartthesystem
I don't see how that letter can possibly make a difference. If they go ahead and announce that Greybeard is no longer a witness......isnt that (the adding of and deleting of congregational members) protected by the 1st amendment?
Even if you sued.....I don't see how you could win
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Believers' Thread!!!
by snowbird inpeace, and love to you.
we are all in this together,to some, we're birds of a featherhowever, no matter what they say,we'll continue to watch, fight, and pray.
sylvia.
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outsmartthesystem
Hi.
I practice Beerism. It requires drinking cold beer on hot days. Would anyone like join my religion?
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How do I explain to my parents how upset I am about their child abuse policy
by not bitter inthis whole case is really bothering me.
but i think what is upsetting me most is the fact that my dad is an elder and to think of him actually going along with this policy on child abuse and protecting an abuser just sickens me.. i have a 5 year old daughter whom my parents help look after and really adore her.
so i'm thinking of going over there and saying to them -.
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outsmartthesystem
Their abuse policy is on the jw.org website?
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Yes. There are SOME things that could lead masses away. If the GB were all arrested for a Ponzi type scheme and the WT society could no longer print literature....I think you'd see many leave. But there will always be a base group (including my FIL and wife) no matter how small...that will remain loyal. God himself could visit this base group and explain that the society is full of shit....and the base group would say "GET BEHIND ME SATAN!"
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Were 'alien residents' Second Class Israelites?
by The Searcher inthe accepted teaching amongst most (i'm addressing fellow witnesses here) is that 'alien residents' were merely "beneficiaries" of the law covenant, but were not equal with natural israelites.
the insight book has this to say; "the law covenant between jehovah and the nation of natural israel was made in the third month after their leaving egypt, in 1513 b.c.e.
(ex 19:1) it was a national covenant.
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blondie - do u have any WT references? (you ALWAYS do) :)
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Were 'alien residents' Second Class Israelites?
by The Searcher inthe accepted teaching amongst most (i'm addressing fellow witnesses here) is that 'alien residents' were merely "beneficiaries" of the law covenant, but were not equal with natural israelites.
the insight book has this to say; "the law covenant between jehovah and the nation of natural israel was made in the third month after their leaving egypt, in 1513 b.c.e.
(ex 19:1) it was a national covenant.
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outsmartthesystem
Playing devil's advocate here: couldn't it be said that ALL the people spoke and were in agreement because ALL the people truly were Israelites then? This was only 3 months after the exodus. Were there even any "alien residents" dwelling with them at that time?
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Stupid question from a non-native speaker
by Nika Bee inhello i am relatively new here, and i apologise for my english in advance.. this is a very irrelevant and probably very stupid question: what does the word "borg" mean, or where does it come from?
i understand it's used for the organisation, but i don't get why.. also, where does "kool aid" come from?.
thanks and sorry again!.
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outsmartthesystem
Borg - Fictional race of controlled cyborgs in the TV series Star Trek. In the mid-1990s when Star Trek was still a craze, to the best of my knowledge, some online poster combined Borg with Organization and got Borganization. This quickly was shortened to Borg.
Kool-aid - Is in reference to the Jim Jones Cult disaster of the late 70s. Jones was the charasmatic leader of The People's Temple. The church grew to over 1,000 members. Eventually they relocated from the U.S to Jonestown Guyanna. On one fateful day, Jones convinced nearly 1,000 men, women and children to drink cyanide laced kool aid. All died. How does a man convince 1,000 people to take their own lives? He must completely control them. Similar to the control the Governing Body has over 7 million JWs. Thus "drinking the kool aid" means accepting the counsel of the governing body without question.
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Father's Day, For Witnesses or Not?
by dontplaceliterature ini did a quick cdrom search on this holiday.
there is not a single article that ties this holiday to paganism.
there are a few about mother's day.
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I've never seen anything in writing either.....but an elder once explained:
1) celebrating Father's day would not be right because we would not be trying to keep ourselves separate from the world
2) like birthdays.....you are putting too much emphasis on one person for that day. It is very close to creature worship. We don't want to even come close to touching the unclean thing do we?
At that time in my life....I accepted his wisdom. Now I'd like to punch him in the throat.