the "flock book" has always been a secret book only used and shared by elders. the congregation in most instances do not even know what it looks like and would fear looking in one as God would strike them dead. if in fact you have made elders aware you have a copy then they will put two and two together that you have been on apostate websites and you will be in deep poo poo. better give them whatever they want and ease out of this or else you may be df before you know it.
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To All Those With The Elders' Textbook
by stevieb1 ini'm not an elder but i do have a photocopy of the book from the net.
a number of elders in the congregation say that i should hand it over to them as "i should not have it.
" the chief reason they give for their request is that the information therein (such as the chapters on judicial cases) is not for my consumption and would not be of any use to me as i'm not an elder in the same way a book on surgical technique would be of little use to me if i wasn't a practicing surgeon.. the claim is made that those who post confidential "to the body of elders" letters on the net are being dishonest - therefore they are not christians.
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How many left over the UN issue?
by seedy3 ini don't know if this q has been brought up on the forum, if so i apoligize, but i was just thinking about this today, and wondered how many here left or are thinking about or trying to leave the b-org as result of the un fiasco?
how many do you know of that left due to this?.
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Well there you now have it,
officially 3 people have left over the UN fiasco.
It's hard to beat a cult....
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JW News
by messenger inhttp://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/10197534043362.xml.
devoted family man dies in auto accident.
thursday, april 25, 2002. by nick chiappetta.
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THE DIVINE ONE! Oops, maybe an elder meeting in his future....
. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/134443058_prince26.html
The divine one: Prince adds a 'Rainbow' of religion to his eclectic musical pot
By Pam Sitt
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Sign o' the timesWhat to expect when the artist formerly known as The Artist Formerly Known as Prince takes the stage at the Paramount Monday?
Don't ask us. Even the Purple One can't seem to make up his mind.
As Prince, 43, nears the end of a 29-date tour, he continues to keep fans guessing. (So what else is new?) At a sold-out show in Lakeland, Fla., three weeks ago, Prince started things off by announcing, "If you came to get your Purple Rain on, you have come to the wrong place. This is not 1984." He later played the hit song in its entirety. But he's shunned fans in other cities who have shouted requests for the song (and other 1980s classics).
Billed as "a stripped-down show that allows the music to speak for itself," "One Nite Alone with Prince" abandons the backup dancers and pyrotechnics and focuses instead on Prince's latest album, the deeply religious "The Rainbow Children." Reports from other tour stops include sprinklings of classic hits such as "Raspberry Beret" and "When You Were Mine"; at least one city was treated to a medley of hits including "Diamonds and Pearls," "Nothing Compares 2 U" and "How Come U Don't Call Me," a song covered by rising star Alicia Keys in her debut album.
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8 p.m. Monday, Paramount Theatre, 911 Pine St., Seattle; $50-$125, 206-628-0888.
Known for his variety of sounds — rock, funk, soul, blues — Prince, a recently converted Jehovah's Witness, delves into his spirituality in the jazz-oriented "The Rainbow Children." His 23rd album is loaded with religious imagery and has been called by critics everything from "challenging" to "rewarding" to "weird." (Fans count at least 50 Prince songs the artist can no longer perform as a Jehovah's Witness due to their explicit content, including hits such as "Little Red Corvette" and "Cream.")
But don't expect to hear any songs from the new album on the radio. Prince hasn't charted a hit in eight years (his last was 1994's "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World"). Not to say that his new stuff isn't good (on the contrary, some critics laud "The Rainbow Children" as his best work in years), but Prince is in control now, and he just doesn't seem interested in doing things the usual way.
After his well-publicized battles with record label Warner Bros. and a brief stint with Arista Records in the '90s, Prince began his own online society, The New Power Generation Music Club (www.npgmusicclub.com), last year. As members of the NPG clan, fans pay $100 annually plus a monthly fee to download Prince's music before anyone else, buy tickets to shows (that'll be another $100, thank you) and get invites to pre-show sound checks. No more music videos, singles or advertising — seemingly, now, Prince is all about the music.
Expect the same for his show. "Real music by real musicians," Prince has said of the tour, which includes appearances by veteran saxophonist Maceo Parker and drummer John Blackwell. There will be no choreography or lip syncing, and — if previous shows are any indicator — good luck searching for any method to a maddening mix of covers, jams, solos and new tunes.
Pam Sitt: 206-464-2376 or [email protected].
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JW News
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devoted family man dies in auto accident.
thursday, april 25, 2002. by nick chiappetta.
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Devoted family man dies in auto accidentThursday, April 25, 2002
By Nick Chiappetta
JOURNAL STAFF WRITERMillington - Funeral services were scheduled today for a father of three described as a man who loved his family and would do anything for them.
Jeffrey D. Weldon, 24, of Davison died in a car accident near Lansing around 1 p.m. Saturday. He was in the back seat of a car driven by his mother-in-law, Cheryl Taulbee.
His wife of four years, Angela, and three children - Raven, 4; Yasmine, 2; and Javen, 11 months - also were in the car.
The six were attending a Jehovah's Witnesses convention and were returning from lunch when the accident occurred.
"He was a good father," said Weldon's mother, Christine Marzonie-Anderson of Davison. "He loved to watch WWF wrestling with (Yasmine). She was his wrestling buddy."
Angela Weldon, 21, was released from intensive care Tuesday and is listed in serious condition at Sparrow Hospital near Lansing.
Taulbee, Javen, Raven and Yasmine suffered broken bones, cuts and bruises and have been released from the hospital.
Weldon attended Millington High School until the 10th grade and then was home-schooled in the 11th and 12th grades.
He worked at Grabill Door and Windows in Almont, where he was known as a practical joker, Marzonie-Anderson said. Angela is a stay-at-home mom.
Weldon's father, Neil, of North Lake described his son as quiet and easygoing.
"He was a good kid. (People) couldn't say much bad about him," he said. "He was a pretty easygoing guy, never had any bad feelings."
Weldon was particularly close to his brother, Brian, 21, Marzonie-Anderson said.
"I'll remember him most for the wonderful son he was," she said.
Weldon also leaves several uncles, aunts and cousins.
Funeral services were to be held at 11 a.m. at Hanlin Funeral Home in Millington. Memorial gifts may be directed to the family.
Nick Chiappetta can be reached at (810) 766-6302 or [email protected].
© 2002 Flint Journal. Used with permission
Copyright 2002 Michigan Live. All Rights Reserved.
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PRIMULA
by messenger inthis word is causing quiet a stir with higher ups at bethel.
any further information as to why "primula" is such a source of concern?
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This word is causing quiet a stir with higher ups at Bethel. Any further information as to why "Primula" is such a source of concern?
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Questions From Readers-Complete Immersion?
by Mister Biggs inmust one get baptized (complete immersion) no matter how severe their handicap?.
(paragraph 2, sentence 3..."since baptism by complete immersion is a scriptural requirement, humans have no authority to exempt someone from baptism.".
my thoughts: what elder/co/do will dare take a risk in exempting one from baptism if they have been told by the society that no human has the authority to do this?
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Perhaps you might like to ask why Fred Franz was never baptized as a Jehovah's Witness....
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TREMORS SHAKE WATCHTOWER
by belbab ini got up this morning, (6 am pacific} and logged on at this site right away, because i wanted to see if anyone posted about the tremor that shook the watchtower last evening.
i saw two posts about earthquakes and i thought oh good, someone has posted the information.
talk about synchronicity.
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I think I have it, the earthquakes were caused by the apostates as a way to test the loyalty of the faithful. It is part of the international multi-billion secret apostacy ran organization that has as its only goal and purpose in life to destroy the faith of all Jehovah's Witnesses thus stopping them from placing literature. This organization hired splunkers to crawl down into caves deep within the earth and plant secret explosives to cause the earthquake event. Jehovah stopped the quake from causing any damage to all WT buildings thus showing his special favor only for God's people. The other building in New York benefited by being close to those protected by holy spirit. Yet JW's are not to be cowed. Let every building in New York fall, let every member of the GB be slain by the huge apostate conspiricy. Jw's will be ever faithful and make xerox copies of old literature and offer them from the trunks of their cars so they can forward www donations to God's representatives on earth.
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Special Witnesses in the News
by messenger infrom: news and views | crime file |.
thursday, april 11, 2002. granny slain after church .
prayed for peace,.
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. http://www.newsday.com/features/printedition/ny-fthjp2657451apr06.story?coll=ny%2Dfeatures%2Dprint
People Of Faith
Sheila McKennaApril 6, 2002
TANYA THOMAS
Student at LaGuardia Community College; recipient of the Delores B. Chandler Memorial Scholarship from the Black Caucus of the New York State Occupational Therapy Association; Jehovah's Witness for 18 years and member of Hillside Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Jamaica.
BIOGRAPHY
Age 37; born in Brooklyn, raised in Jamaica; is to graduate in August from LaGuardia's occupational therapy assistant program; volunteer mentor in LaGuardia's College Bound program for fifth-graders; part-time enrichment teacher at the Little Red School House in Greenwich Village and a summer camp counselor; married; resides in Jamaica.
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"Previous- ly, I worked as a temp doing different office jobs, and I didn't find it very rewarding. I decided to do something that was centered more around people and dealing with them in a more intimate way. My goal now is to be an occupational therapist, basically working with children. I'm a person who likes to interact with people. My religion has helped me there. Throughout my life, I saw people with special needs and disabilities as the people that I wanted to work with. If they need help, I'm there."
ON FAITH
"It has played a huge role in my life. I have faced a lot of obstacles, and God has definitely given me the strength to accomplish what I have so far. I always give him credit for that. He helps me to stay focused and helps me to be balanced and grounded. Based on the type of person that I am and from the faith that I have, I want to take that and use it in my profession. The fact that I have a spiritual foundation is a big plus in every facet of my life."
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Special Witnesses in the News
by messenger infrom: news and views | crime file |.
thursday, april 11, 2002. granny slain after church .
prayed for peace,.
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. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/headline/entertainment/1367723
April 15, 2002, 6:58PM
MUSIC REVIEW
Prince revitalizes concert legacy
By MICHAEL D. CLARK
Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle
It was less than two weeks ago that Prince announced he was bringing his One Nite Alone 2002 tour to the Verizon Wireless Theater on Sunday. With so little time for promotion and planning it was questionable just what the show would be -- and whom it was for.Now we know. The show was built around The Rainbow Children, his new experimental jazz album detailing his conversion to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Not as easy a sell as Purple Rain, to be sure. Then, just to weed out the only mildly curious, he charged a hefty $86.50 and $126.50 per ticket (this from a guy who once sang Money Don't Matter 2 Night).
Prince tried this quick turnaround tour strategy two years ago in Houston with disastrous results. That show was a patchwork of poorly constructed and unsatisfying medleys. One Nite Alone took the opposite approach, carefully stitching a cohesive and seamless performance.
Backed by the New Power Generation, featuring saxophone genius Maceo Parker -- Prince's best ensemble since the Revolution -- the 26-song set was peppered with improvisation, familiar covers and the occasional fan favorite.
This was the roof-is-on-fire Prince show of '80s myth: nearly three hours of funk and soul that was like sitting in on an inspired late-night jam session.
"This is not 1984," said Prince early on. "So if you came here to get your Purple Rain on ... " His voice trailed off, but he shook his head as if to say, "That's not going to happen."
Dressed in a white suit and matching fedora, he opened by introducing the unconverted to The Rainbow Children. The mere thought of a sermon was off-putting, but here the message was secondary to the music. This is Prince's best album since 1995's The Gold Experience.
The title track and Muse 2 the Pharaoh are long sketches of brass-heavy, cool jazz-influenced improvisation. Prince would occasionally wax on about the symbolism of the number 13 or deliver a cryptic line like, "the opposite of NATO is OTAN." However, Parker's easy funk sax blows, coupled with Prince's soulful guitar, was universal.
Xenophobia is a new nonalbum track that couldn't feel more appropriate in an America on heightened security. Brian Eno made Music for Airports; this was music for airports with guards bearing semiautomatic weapons.
Opening with Prince robotically advising, "You have been randomly selected to be searched," its fuzzy bass-note spine was highlighted with the Artist playfully spinning futuristic Southern guitar.
It's usually other rock artists who adapt his music, but this night Prince did the adapting on A Case Of You. Working from originator Joni Mitchell's symphonic version, he gave it enough hiccuping groove-and-gospel varnish to introduce other influences.
Reliving the old-school Midwest funk of his earliest days on the new 1+1+1 Is 3, it wasn't a stretch to shift the jam into Love Rollercoaster by the Ohio Players. La La (Means I Love You) exchanged the original Delfonics' harmony for falsetto warbling, while Sly and the Family Stone's Sing a Simple Song got lost in a percussion- and fusion-heavy stew.
In the end, Prince's promise of no hits was a little bit of a hoax. Eighty minutes into the show, he grabbed his guitar and flicked out the post-punk disco riff of When You Were Mine. It was as if oxygen had been pumped into the room. It was followed by other '80s nuggets -- Take Me With U and a guitar-anthem version of Raspberry Beret.
Prince's eight-song encore featured him and his keyboard. Opening with his earliest Motown-inspired funk-pop hit, I Wanna Be Your Lover, he added greatest hits such as Nothing Compares 2 U and How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore (a can't-miss choice, considering that Grammy darling Alicia Keys is about to release her version as a single).
Breaking a promise nobody wanted him to keep, he left the crowd with a subdued keyboard version of Purple Rain letting the crowd serve as his gospel choir backup. Huddling with Parker for a final improvisation, Prince matched him strum-for-blow, adding to a revitalized concert legacy.
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Special Witnesses in the News
by messenger infrom: news and views | crime file |.
thursday, april 11, 2002. granny slain after church .
prayed for peace,.
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. http://www.detnews.com/2002/schools/0204/15/c06-465378.htm
Detroit Student of the week: Jessica Barrow, Crockett Technical High School
By Valerie D. Lockhart / Special to The Detroit News
Who she is: Jessica Barrow, 14, is a freshman at Crockett Technical High School in Detroit.
Her background: Jessica is the youngest child of Errol and Bobbie Barrow of Detroit. Her mother is an attendance officer at Grant Elementary/Middle School, and her father is a consultant at American Axle. She has two sisters, Shannon, 33, and Dana, 23, and one brother, Jeryl, 31.
What she has done: Jessica is on Crockett's honor roll with a 3.8 grade-point average. She received a Wade H. McCree Jr. Incentive Scholarship, which requires her to maintain at least a 3.0 grade-point average during high school to receive a four-year scholarship to Wayne State University.
"Jessica is a very fine young lady," said Arthur Gildon, an elder at the Jehovah's Witnesses Conant congregation. "She expresses herself very well and is sincere about her religious convictions. She is studious and serious."
Her hobbies: Writing short stories and poems, creating artistic designs on the computer, drawing and reading.
Her career goals: "After graduating from college, I plan to work as an emergency medical technician. I also plan to return to school to become a trauma care physician. I hope to use my skills in the medical department at the Watchtower Society in Brooklyn, New York."
Her role models: "My big sister, Dana, is my role model. She was able to accomplish a lot of her goals without losing her spirituality. She has high moral standards."
Her advice to others: "Keep your priorities and goals in view. Never forget your values and don't compromise your beliefs. Don't forget things and people who are important to you."Student of the Week is featured three times a month in the On Detroit section. To nominate a Detroit, Hamtramck or Highland Park student to be profiled, send information with a telephone number to On Detroit, 615 W. Lafayette, Detroit, Mich. 48226; fax to (313) 222-2335 or call (313) 222-2650.