yes,
no wait,
I meant to say,
HELL YES
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Do witnesses use mind control ?
by sleepy injust whatched an amazing programe on mind control last night.. this morning i looked up the programes web sit which explains how it works and gives you tests to carry out.. the address is www.channel4.com/mindcontrol .
notice the explaination of how mind control works and how people can avoid it.. it seams to fit exactly the way the org.
of jw's works and avoiding mindcontrol fits how those who have left the org.have tried to act.. see if you agree.
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FRONT PAGE NEWS!!!!!!!!!! Give Elder a Call..
by coult9056 inhttp://www.lafayettejc.com/news0824/0824l06.shtml .
james day, a local elder in lafayette, indiana is in the paper again.
he has started a motivational business called "rhythmism!".
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Does this brother live in a van down by the river??
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Copied from website . www.jhuger.com
This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:
John:
"Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."
Mary:
Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."
Me:
"Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"
John:
"If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."
Me:
"What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"
John:
"Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever he wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss his ass."
Me:
"That doesn't make any sense. Why..."
Mary:
"Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"
Me:
"Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."
John:
"Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."
Me:
"Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"
Mary:
"Oh yes, all the time..."
Me:
"And has He given you a million dollars?"
John:
"Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."
Me:
"So why don't you just leave town now?"
Mary:
"You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the shit out of you."
Me:
"Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"
John:
"My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."
Me:
"Haven't you talked to her since then?"
John:
"Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."
Me:
"So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"
Mary:
"Well, he gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."
Me:
"What's that got to do with Hank?"
John:
"Hank has certain 'connections.'"
Me:
"I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."
John:
"But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the shit of you."
Me:
"Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from him..."
Mary:
"No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."
Me:
"Then how do you kiss His ass?"
John:
"Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."
Me:
"Who's Karl?"
Mary:
"A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."
Me:
"And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"
John:
"Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."From the desk of Karl
Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
Use alcohol in moderation.
Kick the shit out of people who aren't like you.
Eat right.
Hank dictated this list Himself.
The moon is made of green cheese.
Everything Hank says is right.
Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
Don't use alcohol.
Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the shit out of you.
Me:
"This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."
Mary:
"Hank didn't have any paper."
Me:
"I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."
John:
"Of course, Hank dictated it."
Me:
"I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"
Mary:
"Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."
Me:
"I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the shit out of people just because they're different?"
Mary:
"It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."
Me:
"How do you figure that?"
Mary:
"Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"
Me:
"Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."
John:
"No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."
Me:
"But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."
John:
"There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."
Me:
"Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."
Mary:
"But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."
Me:
"I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."
John:
"Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"
Me:
"We do?"
Mary:
"Of course we do, Item 7 says so."
Me:
"You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"
John:
"Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."
Me:
"But...oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"
Mary:
She blushes.
John:
"Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is wrong."
Me:
"What if I don't have a bun?"
John:
"No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."
Me:
"No relish? No Mustard?"
Mary:
She looks positively stricken.
John:
He's shouting. "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"
Me:
"So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"
Mary:
Sticks her fingers in her ears."I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la."
John:
"That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."
Me:
"It's good! I eat it all the time."
Mary:
She faints.
John:
He catches Mary. "Well, if I'd known you where one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the shit out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."
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DF/DA people reinstated?
by Billygoat indoes anybody have a fairly accurate number of those that are dfed or daed, that have been reinstated?
i'm just curious as to how many that leave actually go back.
i was always led to believe from my parents that i was one of [italics]the few[/italics] that hasn't come back.
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From my experience as an elder for many years I would say around 40% go back.
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Should you write to the society?
by sleepy inwhen someone comes across something in the "truth" that disterbs them should they write to the society or is this pointless?.
i think they should write for several reasons.. 1.you must give them at least a chance to present their side of the story.it is no good just relying for others for your information you can not be shure what the society really belive until you hear it from them yourself.. wasn't just relying on the judgement of others part of what got you in in the first place.. its good for us to try and advance in our way of thinking during life and part of this involves doing our own research which is not complete until we go to the source of our conflict.. also if you bring up the point with someone it gives more weight to your argument if mention you wrote to the society and this was their answer.. 2. the more poeple that write in with the same points the more difficult it will be for them to hold to an erroneous stand.. the more different people that write the more ways of expresing the point will be heared different ways will make sence to different people.. remember its not just the same person answering all letters but different people who will have to do research an answer your point, which could make them think.. (this assumes that the society is genuinely mistaken and not corupt, although it could be a bit of both).
of cource if you do not want hassle off your elders dont tell the society you are a brother/sister or just give a different name ,prehaps you could give the address of your place of work or somewhere else if you don't want to be traced easily.. in my case i just made it sound like i was an intrested person.. or you could make out that you need some help in presenting the societies case to an intrested person who has quetions.
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Hey, sleepy and troubled, didn't you guys do a movie with Snow White??
With regard to letters you are getting into a minefield, if you make a misstep...BOOM!
Enough said.
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Are there any inactive bro/sis. trying to get back
by matrix1313 ini was wondering if there are any brothers or sisters who for various reasons have drifted away or left the truth and are trying to get back to serve jehovah.
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The common expression is, "where will we go to." The answer becomes simple when you start to think, "NOWHERE." Therein lay the destruct protocol of WT programming. They require you to believe you are leaving God when you no longer sell book for WT. WAKEUP! God don't care, if you do not sell books he will not kill you. Let me demonstrate:
Hey God, I refuse to sell WT books anymore, I dare you to kill me this very moment for not doing so!
I'm waiting
still alive
nothing
See, a simple demonstration, now you can go forth from this moment and learn the terrible secret WT wants no one to find out. GOD DOES NOT CARE IF YOU DO NOT SELL BOOKS FOR WT! If the book sales is now out of the picture, what is the point of all those meetings? Since everyone is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, you now have no reason to be there. You know the big secret, now you are free.
So you see going nowhere basically means not going to meetings, it is the JW'S that are always going somewhere, meetings, service, assemblies, quick build, etc. Isn't it nice to finally be free? Why in the name of all that is holy would you want to go back to that? It is like saying I wish I had acne again, it gave me something to do.
Be thankful, enjoy your freedom, your peace of mind, freedom from fake friends, you can now go forward with cultivating yourself as a better person without WT dogma to screw you up.
Remember you don't have to sell books, it is a proven fact God don't care. So enjoy going nowhere for a change and laugh at every JW you see.
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BERRY LAWSUIT EVALUATED
by MadApostate ini would like to preface my discussion of the recently filed berry lawsuit with several remarks.
first, i am not an attorney, and my only connection with the legal profession is that which occasionally arises out of my personal or business affairs.
second, i have no access to court records, opinions, etc., other than what is available via internet search engines.
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I find your case for misdirection regarding the SL issue to be one thing, but when you use outright lies to make your case, you start to have the stench of WT Legal. WT did not win ANY case in Maine. The case was proven to all parties concerned of Gross misconduct directed by WT cronies. The settlement was not given henceforth due to the Supreme Court in the state of Maine having a stipulation that no one is allowed to sue a religion on any grounds. WT LOST the case, it was clearly proven, read any newspaper surrounding the story, they simply got off having to pay MILLIONS due to the screwed up Maine Supreme Court. You sir, are a liar and you know it. I could say more but the shithouse stench of WT Legal forces me to leave this thread for a breath of fresh air.
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Call WT Toll Free!!!
by messenger innow you can call and tell wt what you think about blood and they pay for the call.
that world wide work money just keeps on paying off.. see number at the end of this press release.. on more point, isn't it great how third world countries love wt stuff.
they see the value along with 70 year old kentucky women.. .
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Body Piercing
by Princess ini just had my navel pierced yesterday.
can i just say ow?!!
the place i chose to have it done was a little on the scary side, clean but weird!
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I have to go with englishman on this one. I saw a young person the other day who looked like they fell face first in a fishing tackle box. Pins and hooks and studs with chains, oh the humanity.....
I did not know whether to smile or call 911.
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Concerning Supercalifragilisticexpealideosis
by messenger ini used a bigger word than dunscot......
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I used a bigger word than Dunscot......