Here ya go. Re-baptizm can be as a result of not being spiritually clean at the time of baptism. This was given to me by the sevice department about ten years ago in a case that involved bigamy. We recended the baptism and they had to be re-baptized after clearing up the marriage arrangement.
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REBAPTISM NECESSARY?
11 Due to certain circumstances at the time when they got baptized or due to subsequent developments, some have doubts about the validity of their past dedication and baptism, and they wonder if they should be rebaptized. They may have been baptized at an early age or while they were very immature in the truth, or after baptism they became inactive in the ministry for a time. At the baptism ceremony a talk on baptism is given to make clear what is involved in the matter of dedication and baptism. If one later has some doubts about the validity of his dedication, he should ask himself whether he understood that water baptism symbolized a dedication to do Jehovah’s will and whether he had actually made a dedication to do Jehovah’s will prior to baptism, even though his knowledge of the truth was limited at that time and he may have been gaining accurate knowledge by a Bible study for only a short time. Were the questions at the end of the ceremony answered in the affirmative and with a basic understanding of the significance thereof?
12 Naturally all should have grown in appreciation of their dedication since symbolizing it by water immersion. Certainly we did not appreciate it fully when we made it, or as fully as we do now. But this does not necessarily mean that we should be rebaptized, even though our immaturity might have later caused a temporary lapse in fulfilling our ministerial responsibilities. But if one submitted to baptism mainly because of emotional factors and without proper understanding, or in order to please one’s parents or others, and if this baptism did not symbolize a prior dedication to do Jehovah’s will, it would be proper to be baptized again. Dedication must come before baptism and not afterward.
13 Certain personal circumstances existing at the time of baptism would necessitate rebaptism. The psalmist David, in a song of praise to Jehovah, stated: “Who may ascend into the mountain of Jehovah, and who may rise up in his holy place? Anyone innocent in his hands and clean in heart, who has not carried My soul to sheer worthlessness, nor taken an oath deceitfully. He will carry away blessing from Jehovah and righteousness from his God of salvation.” (Ps. 24:3-5) Dedication is a bilateral arrangement. Jehovah is the superior and we are the inferiors. Jehovah makes the terms of dedication; we comply with them. He requires that we first repent, turn from our former unclean practices and present ourselves as clean before him.
14 We could not imagine Jehovah accepting the dedication of anyone living in an immoral situation or doing at the time of baptism things that would result in his being cut off from Jehovah’s favor by disfellowshiping, if he were already in the Christian congregation. In ordinary business a contract is not valid unless it is signed and sealed properly by all parties concerned. On this principle it would be necessary for a formerly unfit person to be baptized again even though after his former baptism he discontinued these wrongs and made advancement in the truth and service of Jehovah. The first baptism could not symbolize a dedication made under proper circumstances that Jehovah could accept. He should now make a firm resolve to do Jehovah’s will and thus dedicate his life to Jehovah’s service and then submit to baptism at the earliest opportunity. If an unclean situation developed sometime after dedication and baptism, this would not make the dedication invalid. The individual, however, would be subject to appropriate discipline by the organization.
15 While the one performing the baptism should be a dedicated brother, the baptizer is not the important thing to consider in determining the validity of the baptism. The main question is, Have we heard the dedication discourse arranged by Jehovah’s theocratic organization and have we submitted ourselves to be baptized by one assigned by the organization? It would not be of concern to us later if it was found that the one who did the baptizing or the one who gave the baptism discourse found it necessary for himself to be baptized again. The important thing is the validity of the organization that he represented at the time and by the authorization and appointment of which he performed the water baptism.
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Baptism Nullification
by David Gladden inseveral years ago i sent a letter to the elders of the congregation i was in notifying them that i no longer wished to be associated with the organization.
over time my brother has moved up the ranks and has recently come across an interesting piece of information regarding my case.
it turns out that the elders never filed my disassociation papers and never formally disassociated me.
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Dave Thomas - Biggie Fries & Biggie Shake!
by Utopian Reformist inwendy's founder dave thomas dies.
by mark williams, associated press writer .
columbus, ohio (ap) - dave thomas, the portly pitchman whose homespun ads built wendy's old-fashioned hamburgers into one of the world's most successful fast-food enterprises, has died.
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You forgot to check shithead.com nytele got a perfect ten.
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HELP! Real UFO experience. No Joke. Very Serious
by proplog2 ini want to report the most significant thing that ever happened to.
it is an event that i haven't been able to integrate into my.
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It just goes to show in this time of the end the demons are getting trickier and trickier. Now they are buzzing the brothers and sisters homes to try and break their concentration off spiritual things. The time spent worrying about the noise could have been much better spent in reading your latest wt or preparing a sermon for field service.
Are you going to allow the demons to destroy your spirituality?
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WBTS NULLIFY ones baptisim
by bj inhave you ever heard that the wbts in rare cases nullify ones baptisim?.
in france, a jw who was dying in his bed with aids, confessed to the elders, his homosexual relations.
the elders not knowing what to do, contucted the bethel of france.
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Here ya go. Re-baptizm can be as a result of not being spiritually clean at the time of baptism. This was given to me by the sevice department about ten years ago in a case that involved bigamy. We recended the baptism and they had to be re-baptized after clearing up the marriage arrangement.
*** w62 6/1 332-3 Why Be Baptized? ***
REBAPTISM NECESSARY?
11 Due to certain circumstances at the time when they got baptized or due to subsequent developments, some have doubts about the validity of their past dedication and baptism, and they wonder if they should be rebaptized. They may have been baptized at an early age or while they were very immature in the truth, or after baptism they became inactive in the ministry for a time. At the baptism ceremony a talk on baptism is given to make clear what is involved in the matter of dedication and baptism. If one later has some doubts about the validity of his dedication, he should ask himself whether he understood that water baptism symbolized a dedication to do Jehovah’s will and whether he had actually made a dedication to do Jehovah’s will prior to baptism, even though his knowledge of the truth was limited at that time and he may have been gaining accurate knowledge by a Bible study for only a short time. Were the questions at the end of the ceremony answered in the affirmative and with a basic understanding of the significance thereof?
12 Naturally all should have grown in appreciation of their dedication since symbolizing it by water immersion. Certainly we did not appreciate it fully when we made it, or as fully as we do now. But this does not necessarily mean that we should be rebaptized, even though our immaturity might have later caused a temporary lapse in fulfilling our ministerial responsibilities. But if one submitted to baptism mainly because of emotional factors and without proper understanding, or in order to please one’s parents or others, and if this baptism did not symbolize a prior dedication to do Jehovah’s will, it would be proper to be baptized again. Dedication must come before baptism and not afterward.
13 Certain personal circumstances existing at the time of baptism would necessitate rebaptism. The psalmist David, in a song of praise to Jehovah, stated: “Who may ascend into the mountain of Jehovah, and who may rise up in his holy place? Anyone innocent in his hands and clean in heart, who has not carried My soul to sheer worthlessness, nor taken an oath deceitfully. He will carry away blessing from Jehovah and righteousness from his God of salvation.” (Ps. 24:3-5) Dedication is a bilateral arrangement. Jehovah is the superior and we are the inferiors. Jehovah makes the terms of dedication; we comply with them. He requires that we first repent, turn from our former unclean practices and present ourselves as clean before him.
14 We could not imagine Jehovah accepting the dedication of anyone living in an immoral situation or doing at the time of baptism things that would result in his being cut off from Jehovah’s favor by disfellowshiping, if he were already in the Christian congregation. In ordinary business a contract is not valid unless it is signed and sealed properly by all parties concerned. On this principle it would be necessary for a formerly unfit person to be baptized again even though after his former baptism he discontinued these wrongs and made advancement in the truth and service of Jehovah. The first baptism could not symbolize a dedication made under proper circumstances that Jehovah could accept. He should now make a firm resolve to do Jehovah’s will and thus dedicate his life to Jehovah’s service and then submit to baptism at the earliest opportunity. If an unclean situation developed sometime after dedication and baptism, this would not make the dedication invalid. The individual, however, would be subject to appropriate discipline by the organization.
15 While the one performing the baptism should be a dedicated brother, the baptizer is not the important thing to consider in determining the validity of the baptism. The main question is, Have we heard the dedication discourse arranged by Jehovah’s theocratic organization and have we submitted ourselves to be baptized by one assigned by the organization? It would not be of concern to us later if it was found that the one who did the baptizing or the one who gave the baptism discourse found it necessary for himself to be baptized again. The important thing is the validity of the organization that he represented at the time and by the authorization and appointment of which he performed the water baptism. -
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A Beautiful Mind
by messenger inthe little girl stands for your family within the organization all the attempts they will make to encourage you to come back and have their approval if you will just submit.
the best friend represents all those that you grew up with in the organization, people you have known all your life, those who you may see once a year at the district convention who rush up to you and are so happy to see you, they make you feel secure and a part of something.
the government agent symbolizes the organization that has desperate need of your services.
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The little girl stands for your family within the organization all the attempts they will make to encourage you to come back and have their approval if you will just submit. The best friend represents all those that you grew up with in the organization, people you have known all your life, those who you may see once a year at the District Convention who rush up to you and are so happy to see you, they make you feel secure and a part of something. The government agent symbolizes the organization that has desperate need of your services. They make you feel you are apart of accomplishing the greater good for the saving of mankind and without your contribution it could mean the end of everything. These three characters absolutely control your thoughts your very life and everything you do is generated to obtain their favor. Then one day you discover they do not exist but only in your mind. The security of having everything together is destroyed in facing the fact you are a mentally deranged schizophrenic. When you discover this reality what are your options? Take drugs and live in a stupor for the rest of your life? Utilize more sever therapy that could lobotomize your brain into a simpleton state where you function as little more than a vegetable day to day. Perhaps the third alternative is to fight the visions before your eyes, to simply ignore them no matter how they beg to have interaction with you. Fight to live a semi-normal existence for the purpose of sharing life with your mate who believes in you enough to stick through the hard times. The love you have for this person gives you the will and purpose to never quite, to never stop fighting the psychosis that never relents. What does the mate symbolize? The freedom to think, to live, to love, to assist, and to have the chance a normal life offers.
The little girl, the friend, the government agent, are always there, waiting for you to give in, to lose it, and go back to what you were before. They act like you have really let them down and are desperately wrong to not come back to their world. But the love of freedom will not let you give in and you know you must fight it till the day you die to not let “them” win, to not let “them” destroy the reality of accomplishing something meaningful in life, to not let “them” take over your mind so that you would spend a lifetime in a delusional stupor of accomplishing nothing.
Will you go back to being a Jehovah’s Witness?
The metaphors described above are what came to me as I watched the move: “A Beautiful Mind.” If you happen to see it perhaps it will move you the same way.
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Conventions In Trouble In Arizona?
by messenger inhow bout those jw's,when they come to town they bring the ten commandments and a twenty dollar bill.
they do not break either one of them.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/azstar/20020103/lo/tcc_losing_out_on_concert_revenue_1.html.
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How bout those JW's,when they come to town they bring the ten commandments and a twenty dollar bill. They do not break either one of them.
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Friday January 04 02:10 AM EST
TCC losing out on concert revenue
By Joe Burchell , ARIZONA DAILY STARCompetition is pushing the Tucson Convention Center, once the only place in town to see big-name performers ranging from Elvis to Elton John to the Rolling Stones, into the background of the concert picture here.
The TCC's fall from concert popularity comes as the City Council is contemplating cutting off the center's yearly $3.1 million taxpayer subsidy, requiring it to bring in enough money to cover its operating costs of $7 million.
With the city facing potential budget deficits during the next several years, Vice Mayor Carol West said at a recent City Council budget meeting that making the TCC self-supporting, so the $3.1 million taxpayer subsidy can be used for other needs, should be a priority.
Touring concerts are among the most profitable users of the 31-year-old center, helping to offset the losses resulting from the council-mandated discounts given to conventions and local nonprofit groups.
Six concerts were staged in the 9,700-seat TCC Arena last year, down from nine in 2000.
Last year's events also tended to be smaller draws. The largest crowd was 7,558 at an Ozzy Osbourne concert in November, compared with more than 8,500 for both Elton John and Kiss in 2000.
Meanwhile, the county's Tucson Electric Park got into the concert business last year, drawing more than 10,000 people to two of its four events; two casinos opened concert venues with acts that once might have played the TCC; and Old Tucson continued to upgrade its summer concert series.
Competition for the concert dollar only figures to get stiffer this year because the casino concert facilities that opened in the fall will be in operation for the full year and TEP is planning to expand its concert offerings.
After clearing a $54,000 profit on four concerts last year, TEP hopes to hold six shows this year.
"We are really trying to push public service and public safety and cooperation to get our foot in the door with the promoters," said Kate O'Rielly, the county's director of community services.
The Pima County Fairgrounds, a nonplayer in the concert arena the last couple of years, has hired a new executive director and marketing director who hope to start staging concerts there.
For the TCC to break even, Director Hymie Gonzales said the city needs to increase the rates for conventions and nonprofit groups, on which it now breaks even or loses money when those events are held. Or the city could bring in more commercial events like concerts and family shows, which could require displacing some of those low-revenue users, he said.
For example, every summer the Jehovah's Witness convention occupies much of the facility for five weeks. The group pays discounted rent, gets free parking, allows no concession sales, and generates no ticket fees, which means the TCC loses money on the event.
But pushing the event out of the convention center would set off protests by hotel and restaurant owners who count on the 15,000 attendees to pump up summer business, he said.
Gonzales said he's trying to establish better relationships with concert promoters and developing plans to co-promote some events as first steps toward re-establishing the TCC's position as a concert venue.
Danny Zelesko, president of Evening Star Productions, confirmed TCC representatives are reaching out to promoters more.
"They're very anxious to get more shows in there, and they are anxious to make deals to get the right shows." he said. "In the past, there were people down there who didn't seem to care if they had shows in there or not."
Zelesko said THE TCC is a victim of changes in the concert business and of increased competition. The big-name groups are playing fewer dates, charging more and ignoring smaller markets like Tucson.
Gonzales said the cost of doing fewer and smaller shows is significant. Financial breakdowns of each of the major concerts were not available. The Convention Center did bring in $3.9 million last year for all its events, including conventions, trade shows and concerts.
Ozzy Osbourne brought the TCC nearly $70,000 before expenses, and it wasn't nearly as successful as the bigger shows from past years, he said. The next-biggest show last year was rapper Snoop Dogg and Friends, which drew just over 5,600 people.
Concert promoter Ryan Dahlstrom of C&R Entertainment said TCC rental rates are one of the reasons business is going elsewhere.
One night in the arena is $2,530 or 10 percent of the ticket sales, whichever is more. Plus the center gets a 5 percent box office fee, a $1 ticket surcharge, 35 percent of merchandise sales and all concession revenue.
Dahlstrom has mostly promoted shows at Old Tucson and Desert Diamond Casino, which he said is upgrading its lighting and sound systems to be more attractive to concerts.
Gonzales said it costs more to rent the TCC than most other venues because it costs more to heat, cool, light and maintain an indoor facility than an outdoor one.
He said he can't compete on rent with places like Old Tucson, the New West nightclub in Marana and the casinos because they are using concerts to attract customers to their primary business and absorbing much of the shows' costs.
Rob Horgan, director of marketing and public relations at Old Tucson, confirmed that's what the park is doing.
The park, which has gotten increasingly into the concert business since reopening in 1997, needed a way to attract Southern Arizona residents in the summer so it included free admission to eight concerts as part of its $45 annual pass, Horgan said.
Dahlstrom also promoted five other concerts at Old Tucson, for a total of 13 shows in 2001.
With just 4,000 seats, Horgan said he doesn't believe Old Tucson is competing with TCC. But of the six arena concerts at the TCC, only two attracted more than 4,000 customers.
* Contact Joe Burchell at 573-4244 or at [email protected].
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CIRCUITLEASING.COM=CO's cars?
by GermanXJW insorry, for starting a new thread again, but this is discussed on german http://www.infolink-forum.de.
is there proof that http://www.circuitleasing.com is really a wt-kind corp. for selling the co's cars?.
i noticed that all given delivery points except clc-headquarters (?
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I have all the paperwork it is clearly identified as being associated with the witnesses, the letter even starts aout as "dear friends" I think the company may be ran by the person in Michigan who set up the lease program for WT yet it is not clear if WT gets a cut of the sale. Not a bad deal though a $26,000 car for $10,000 after about tow years. It is a great CO wanna be starter car.
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Hope Her Brother Is Not DF...
by messenger inhttp://ja.mlive.com/news/index.ssf?/news/stories/20020102jreunion.frm.
reunion with long-lost brother thrills jackson woman .
wednesday, january 2, 2002. .
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Reunion with long-lost brother thrills Jackson woman
Wednesday, January 2, 2002
By Dave Hoger
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Brother who was adopted out at 2 years old now is a truck driver living in Houston.
Being a Jehovah's Witness, Cida Trusty of Jackson doesn't celebrate Christmas.
But "presents I enjoy getting," she said, with a laugh.
None have meant more than the one she received when her phone rang Dec. 22. It was the brother she had not seen or heard from in more than 36 years.
"I'm just thrilled. But it's kind of bittersweet because we've missed so much," said Trusty, 56, clutching the arm of her brother, James Lewis Bailey, while the two sat on the couch in the living room of her home on Plymouth Street on Monday afternoon.
"Thirty-six years is a long time ... a real long time."
That frustration was compounded by the fact that Bailey, 39, a truck and limo driver now living in Houston, figures he came within a few miles of his sister's house on several occasions while driving a big rig along I-94.
"I feel cheated after all these years, especially being a truck driver going up and down the highway," said Bailey. "I came so close (to her), yet I was so far away. A lot of my years were wasted."
It wasn't until a few weeks ago that Trusty, a native of Brazil, had any idea where her younger brother was, though she had never given up trying to find him.
She received a letter from Jean Bailey, the missionary who adopted Bailey when he was 2. Even in the letter, Trusty said, the woman "never mentioned a word about" her brother.
Nevertheless, Trusty wrote back, with her phone number and address. Jean Bailey, in turn, sent the information to her adopted son.
A few days later, Trusty received a call from her long-lost brother.
Trusty and Bailey were finally reunited Sunday at Metro Airport in Detroit, where Trusty's husband, Tone, and children got to meet their brother-in-law and uncle for the first time.
It was while their family lived in Brazil that Trusty, Bailey and their eight brothers and sisters (one has since died) were involuntarily separated. Their mother died when Bailey was barely a year old and Trusty was 19.
Their father, a sharecropper, was unable to care for the 10 children, so the younger ones were scattered among orphanages and missions. Bailey was 2 when he was adopted by missionaries Jean Bailey and Lucille Stewart "and he disappeared," Trusty said. "We hadn't seen him since."
While Bailey was moving from Brazil to the Philippines to Oklahoma and finally to Houston, Trusty and her family never stopped looking for him. They searched the Internet, called all over the country, even tried to contact TV talk shows in hopes of finding him.
Trusty, who moved to Jackson 36 years ago because her husband had friends here, and Bailey are the only members of the family living in the United States. Their brothers and sisters still live in Brazil, where all were born.
Bailey doesn't hold any animosity toward his adoptive mother. But Trusty isn't so forgiving.
"She always knew that we were in Michigan," Trusty said. "She kept him away from us; a cruel thing, but she kept him away from his family. They knew that our father died in 1987. But he never knew about it."
"People didn't find my mom," said Bailey, pulling from his wallet the letter his mother sent him with his sister's phone number and address.
"I can't really get mad," he added. "I don't know who to get mad at. It's kind of like water under the bridge."
Still, Bailey had fun with his sister and her family once his plane touched down in Detroit. "Just to be funny," he had given them three or four different descriptions of himself. So "we were looking for a kind of heavy-set guy with no hair," recalls Trusty.
Instead, Bailey was dressed all in black, with his black limo driver's hat, because "I didn't have time to change into jeans." Though the family was holding a sign with his name on it while waiting at the terminal, he at first walked right past them.
"Just a test," Bailey said, chuckling. "I wanted to see how well they were paying attention."
-- Reach reporter Dave Hoger at [email protected] or 768-4971.
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Great Relief Effort Of WT For WTC Continues...
by messenger inhttp://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/krnewyork/20020103/lo/b_klyn_bravest_found_at_wtc_1.html.
thursday january 03 06:38 am est .
b'klyn bravest found at wtc.
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Thursday January 03 06:38 AM EST
B'klyn Bravest Found at WTC
By GREG WILSON, MICHELE MCPHEE and GREG GITTRICH
The firefighters of Ladder 118 died side by side.Lt. Robert Regan and Firefighters Joseph Agnello and Peter Vega were found together on New Year's Day, more than three months after their last tragic run together Sept. 11.
Their final journey was photographed from a nearby Brooklyn roof, the picture capturing the tiller truck crossing the Brooklyn Bridge "into the gates of hell," as a priest from a nearby church had put it.
Six men were aboard the truck from Brooklyn Heights. Scott Davidson, the driver, was found weeks ago. Everyone else was missing until the first few hours of 2002.
They were pulled from the buried lobby of the Marriott World Trade Center Hotel, where many had sought refuge when the towers fell, Fire Department sources said.
Recovery workers believe Regan, Agnello and Vega died together in the hotel lobby, near four other firefighters and three civilians whose bodies also were recovered Tuesday.
They refused to leave one another, and they would not abandon civilians in the suffocating smoke as the towers crumbled.
"That's what he would be doing. That sounds like him," Agnello's wife, Vinnie Carla, said yesterday.
Regan's wife, Donna, has prayed daily that her husband would be found alongside his men.
"The biggest honor for him is that he was found with his guys," she said yesterday. "Bobby loved those guys. He never would have went anywhere without them."
Firehouse Lost 8
Eight firefighters from the Ladder 118/Engine 205 firehouse on Middagh St. died Sept. 11. Of the six aboard Ladder 118's tiller truck, two remain missing — Leon Smith and Vernon Cherry.
The medical examiner's office identified three other firefighters recovered between midnight and 8 a.m. on New Year's Day as Christopher Pickford of Engine 201 in Brooklyn and Charles Mendez and George Cain of Ladder 7 in Manhattan.
The body of a seventh firefighter recovered that day was not identified. But Vega's widow, Regan Grice-Vega, told the Daily News that Fire Department brass told her the body was another of the men who rode on Ladder 118's truck.
The Oct. 5 edition of the Daily News immortalized that final run. The front-page photograph, snapped from the roof of the Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower building, shows the men heading to their deaths across the Brooklyn Bridge.
Grieving family members said yesterday that the discovery of the firefighters tore open wounds that had only begun to heal. But the pain was worth it.
"It's a mixed emotion because it dredged up the shock of Sept. 11," said Vinnie Carla Agnello. "I was just going on with my life, thinking they'd never find him."
"When they said they found him, it was reality," she said. "It hurts all over again."
Agnello's body was the first recovered early Tuesday. The heavy machines quickly came to a halt, and a group of his Ladder 118/Engine 205 brethren who happened to be digging through debris nearby were called over.
Agnello, 35, was constantly bragging about his young sons, Sal, 3, and Vincent, 1. He had been the target of good-natured ribbing about the way he rang the wrong bells in his first days at the house — leading to his nickname, Joey Bells.
As construction workers watched with their hardhats over their hearts, the firefighters carried Agnello out of the pit. They then returned to painstakingly dig for their other missing colleagues.
Using tiny shovels, they found Vega, 36, next. The resident politician of the Engine 205/Ladder 118 firehouse, he routinely debated his fellow firefighters.
About 4:30 a.m., the firefighters came upon Regan, 45. A quiet man, Regan had met his wife when she was 15, and together they had two kids — Caitlin, 15 and Brendan, 12.
His brother-in-law, Charlie Wells, retrieved Regan's wedding ring and his medallion of St. Florian, the patron saint of firefighters.
The back of the medallion is inscribed: "We love you, Caitlin, Brendan and Donna." It also carries the date 12/10/85 — the day he became a firefighter.
"I'm very happy. I don't have to think of him down there anymore," Donna Regan said as she caressed the medallion and ring.
She said she was going to wait to bury her husband until the last members of the doomed fire truck were recovered.
Engine 205 Firefighter John Sorrentino, who helped find Regan and the others, vowed to keep searching.
"We are still waiting for Vernon and Leon," he said. "It is very important to us that we've been there to get them out and carry them home." With Alice McQuillan
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Hi to all the Girl's and Boy's
by Nute inofficially been out of the organization since 1990 .... i have e-mailed some of you already .... a very nice group of individuals i must say.
what does borg mean?
i did rattle some cages with the last post by silientlamb, but i guess that's what it is all about listening to both the good and the bad.
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Welcome to the board and enjoy the ride. If you get really brave you may want to try the chat rooms. We are glad you found us and hope you get to know a lot of nice folks here.