This person does not exist. It is a fabrication for some twisted purpose. No child molester has been murdered in a Texas Prision for the last six years.
What is your agenda YoYo?
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Searching for a Child Abuser
by YoYoMama ini heard this weekend that a convicted child abuser was murdered in jail.
i knew him but i don't remember his first name.
we were in the same congregation together for a few weeks.
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Bethel health insurance
by roybatty inquestion for any ex-bethelites....or anyone else who might know.. after serving (aka being slaves) at the brooklyn bethel my sister and brother in law are leaving because she is pregnant.
im just curious about something.
how long is it normally in such circumstances before a couple leaves?
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When a bethelite becomes pregnaunt it is a one way ticket home, no benefits, no insurance, no compensation. You are completely on your on, you better hope you have family that can take care of you.
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JW's and politics?
by messenger inthe following is an article about draft registration, in the last two paragraphs it talks about an organization that represents jehovah's witnesses.
"friends committee on legislation" does anyone know anything about this organization?.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-000018512mar13.story?coll=la%2dheadlines%2dcalifornia.
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The following is an article about Draft registration, in the last two paragraphs it talks about an organization that represents Jehovah's Witnesses. "Friends Committee on Legislation" Does anyone know anything about this organization?
. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-000018512mar13.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia
March 13, 2002 Talk about it E-mail story Print
THE STATE
Bill Designed to Force Draft Registration
Senate: The proposal would deny driver's licenses to California's 18-year-old men who do not consent to Selective Service sign-up.By CARL INGRAM, TIMES STAFF WRITER
SACRAMENTO -- California's draft-age men, among the nation's worst at registering with the Selective Service, could be denied driver's licenses for failing to sign up under a bill moving through the Senate.Despite objections that it would quash dissent to the draft and might be used to "flush out" illegal immigrants, the bill passed the Senate Governmental Organization Committee on Tuesday.
The little-noticed bill would have the effect of automatically registering California men ages 18 to 26 with the Selective Service System when they are issued their first driver's license or state identification card. Their names, addresses and Social Security numbers would be forwarded electronically to a federal databank, where they would be presumed to have registered. Those who fail to give their consent would be denied driver's licenses. Driver's license applicants ages 15 to 17, too young to register, would be presumed to have given their consent when they turn 18.
At Tuesday's sometimes emotional hearing, Sen. Mike Machado (D-Linden), who served in the Vietnam War, denounced the bill as an assault on the constitutional right of young men to dissent.
Another lawmaker, Sen. Nell Soto (D-Pomona), suggested that the bill actually was intended to "flush out" illegal immigrants.
But a third member, Sen. Joe Dunn (D-Santa Ana), endorsed the plan as a sensible and cost-efficient way to induce young men to register for the Selective Service. The draft was abolished in 1973, but since 1980, federal law has required men ages 18 to 26 to register in case the draft is reinstated.
If they do not sign up, they can be prosecuted as felons, an unlikely possibility these days. More likely sanctions include loss of federal student loans, denial of federal job-training benefits and loss of ability to work for the federal government or in some state government jobs.
At No. 46 nationally, California is among the worst states for compliance, proponents of the bill said. Selective Service records showed that at least 16,000 California men who had turned 27 had failed to register with the draft during the last three years.
The bill (SB1276) by Sen. Jackie Speier (D-Hillsborough), a sleeper that has stirred virtually no attention from defenders of civil liberties, was narrowly approved by the 13-member committee on a bipartisan 7-2 vote.
It was sent to the Transportation Committee for another hearing. If successful, it would be heard by the Appropriations Committee and the full Senate. Its fate in the Senate is uncertain, but similar legislation has perished in the Assembly.
"Registration is the law. I think it should be made simple and seamless for our young men and not be punitive," Speier told the committee.
Sponsored by the Selective Service System and supported by veterans organizations, the bill was based on laws already in effect in 15 other states with poor Selective Service compliance records.
Virtually all have improved significantly by linking registration to approval of a driver's license, testified Justo Gonzalez Jr. of Denver, western regional director of Selective Service.
Speier and Selective Service officials testified that many draft-age men fail to register because they are unaware of the requirement and may, unknowingly, be subjecting themselves to severe consequences, such as being rejected for a U.S. government job or loss of student aid.
They said the message isn't getting through to young men in California through high school counseling and "reminders" that are mailed to nonregistrants, whose names and addresses currently are provided to the Selective Service System twice a year by the state Department of Motor Vehicles.
Ronald Markarian, California director of the Selective Service System, said he believes many young men ignore such warnings because they are of a generation that does not want to accept "personal responsibility."
At the end of 2000, he said, only 83% of eligible registrants born in 1981 had signed up.
But Machado, a Navy veteran of the Vietnam War, charged that linking issuance of a driver's license to registration poured ice water on a young man's right to choose to refuse to sign and face the consequences.
"Young people have the right to make a choice," Machado said. He asserted that "our Constitution allows for dissent and protest.... This bill fundamentally attacks the premise upon which this nation was founded."
Further, said Machado, who voted against it, the bill sought to make the state instead of the U.S. government the enforcer of the Selective Service law. "You are coming to the state when the federal government doesn't enforce its own law," Machado told Markarian and Gonzalez.
Speier rejected the notion that the bill was anti-immigrant. She said it would apply to draft-age legal immigrants who had been in this country for more than a year.
The bill also was opposed by the Friends Committee on Legislation, which represents conscientious objectors and various faiths, including Quakers, Mennonites and Jehovah's Witnesses.
But Dunn defended the bill as a "simple, pragmatic way at the least cost to the taxpayer to get young men registered for the draft." Two other Democrats and four Republicans agreed and voted for the bill.
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Witness man shunned
by messenger inhttp://www.canoe.ca/nationalticker/canoe-wire.jehovahs-transfusion.html.
march 10, 2002 .
jehovah's witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion.
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New article.
Could you send me the man's email?
. http://www.canada.com/calgary/news/story.asp?id={CFBA7833-E461-4DCB-80BF-F8438BCB1D50}
Jehovah's Witness praises hospital staff
Calgary HeraldTuesday, March 12, 2002
The father of a Jehovah's Witness girl suffering from leukemia praised doctors for improving her condition through treatment that includes blood transfusions forbidden by their faith.The 16-year-old girl and her mother are trying to have the transfusions stopped, but her father, who is also a Jehovah's Witness, believes they are necessary to keep her alive.
"The treatment is working," the 51-year-old father said Monday. "Words can't describe my appreciation to the staff at Alberta Children's Hospital."
The teen has been undergoing chemotherapy since last month and the province gained temporary custody of her after she and her family refused to allow blood transfusions.
The father changed his mind after rereading Bible scriptures.
"There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that my daughter was on the verge of death . . . and that without this treatment she would have died a long time ago," he said in a written statement.
Blood transfusions are considered necessary because leukemia depletes red blood cells, which carry needed oxygen to the body's vital organs.
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Witness man shunned
by messenger inhttp://www.canoe.ca/nationalticker/canoe-wire.jehovahs-transfusion.html.
march 10, 2002 .
jehovah's witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion.
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My posting limit is up but if anyone woudl like to put this up as a topic you are welcome. Good ole Prince is at it again.
Music News
Artist aims higher than old hits
03/11/02
John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music CriticForget partying like it's 1999.
The Artist Currently Known Again As Prince has changed his tune for the new millennium.
He had his sights set on a higher power when he head lined a sold- out show last night at Playhouse Square's Palace Theatre.
"If you came to get your 'Purple Rain' on tonight, you are so at the wrong party," Prince warned the audience.
The set list drew heavily from his new album, "The Rainbow Children," which could be subtitled "The Gospel According to Prince." The quasi-Biblical effort is filled with references to God, "Banished Ones" and a certain "Sensual Everafter."
Prince, 43, reportedly became a Jehovah's Witness recently. If he appears on your doorstep, pray he brings along his smoking five-piece band.
They certainly made believers out of 2,900 fans at this inspired gig.
The jazzy title track of "The Rainbow Children" got the night off to a fine start. Prince was decked out in black pants, a black shirt and a gray jacket.
During the swinging opening number, he sat down on the edge of the stage and fired off a crackling guitar solo. Then he stepped up to a microphone and proclaimed in a robotic voice: "As prophesied, the wise one and his woman were tempted by the resistor."
Nobody seemed quite sure what he meant. Nobody seemed to mind, either.
"Muse 2 the Pharaoh," "Mellow" and other new songs also went over well, none more so than "1+1+1 Is 3." In the middle of the latter tune - a funky paradise a few exits past "Erotic City" - Prince stopped to scold a woman in the front row who was eating a chocolate sundae instead of dancing.
"Are you with us, dear?" he asked. "All right - we can continue."
Prince breathed new life into a handful of older crowd pleasers, too, including "When You Were Mine," "Take Me with U" and the neo-psychedelic "Raspberry Beret."
Rounding out the concert were several intriguing stabs at material by other artists. Joni Mitchell's "A Case of You" made a fine vehicle for Prince's wicked falsetto. He also did right by Sly & the Family Stone's "Sing a Simple Song" and the Delfonics chestnut "La-La Means I Love You."
Prince left many of his own "greatest" hits unplayed. All the same, his greatness came across loud and clear.
How was it for you? E-mail your concert comments to
Contact John Soeder at:
[email protected], 216-999-4562
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Watchtower Estate Planning
by messenger inthe following is a letter that was sent to disfellowshipped children by way of an attorney.
the attorney was secured by the elderly parents who are witnesses and recently signed over a sizable estate to watchtower at their death.
do you think this is part of the legal department tactics to prevent the parents from making contact with the children and thus causing the estate to be contested?
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The following is a letter that was sent to disfellowshipped children by way of an attorney. The attorney was secured by the elderly parents who are witnesses and recently signed over a sizable estate to Watchtower at their death. Do you think this is part of the legal department tactics to prevent the parents from making contact with the children and thus causing the estate to be contested? Another way to state it would be to say a preemptive way to protect Watchtower assets? Does anyone else know of letters of this type being sent to disinherited children when Watchtower estate planning gets involved?
Dear XXX,
This letter is to xxx(children) at the request of xxx (parents). I have recently had a meeting with your parents and they have made this request that I write this letter to you. For reasons known to them and you, they have requested that you or any members of your family not contact them by phone or attempting to visit them in any way. This is their desire and I hope you will comply with their request.
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Witness man shunned
by messenger inhttp://www.canoe.ca/nationalticker/canoe-wire.jehovahs-transfusion.html.
march 10, 2002 .
jehovah's witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion.
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. http://www.canoe.ca/NationalTicker/CANOE-wire.Jehovahs-Transfusion.html
March 10, 2002
Jehovah's Witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion
CALGARY (CP) -- Shunned by the Jehovah's Witnesses he once embraced, he's a now lonely man, ignored by family and friends as if he were a wandering ghost.
He's been "lost" for almost a month, ever since defying his faith by consenting to blood transfusions for his 16-year-old leukemia-stricken daughter.The 51-year-old Calgary father -- who can't be named under laws protecting the identity of his daughter -- knew he would pay a high price. Even the daughter whose life might be saved by his decision sometimes says she hates him.
"I was under tremendous pressure," he said in a recent interview. "Because I knew that if I went against what the church taught, that I would be excommunicated and no Jehovah's Witness would ever speak to me again, including my family."
His wife now comes home only to do laundry, and his other two daughters, 14 and 22, want little to do with him.
They've banned him from his daughter's hospital room when Witness meetings are piped in over the speaker phone. Meetings occur several times a week and sometimes last all day.
And he is ignored by his friends.
"It's as though I don't exist."
The shunning is used on any Jehovah's Witness who challenges such tenets as the prohibition against blood transfusions, which the members of the religious organization believe is spelled out in several Bible passages.
"When I made the decision with a clear conscience, I went into my daughter's hospital room. My whole family was there, and I told them about my decision, saying, 'No matter what happens with this case, I still love you, each and every one of you.'
"And their reply, each of them, was, 'We hate you and we'll never speak to you again.' "
Doctors say the best available treatment for his daughter's potentially fatal disease is blood transfusions and chemotherapy. She has received those treatments several times over the last three weeks at the Alberta Children's Hospital.
According to the girl's lawyer, when she is taken to the operating room for a transfusion, she uses what little strength she has to resist.
"They semi-sedate her, hold her down on the bed and they give the blood transfusion," said David Gnam, whose law firm in Georgetown, Ont., works primarily for the Jehovah's Witnesses.
As the girl's condition improves, Gnam is looking for legal and medical alternatives to the transfusions.
"She's not trying to die," he said. "She would like treatment that would respect her wishes."
The family's ordeal began in mid-February, when the girl was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia after she went to the hospital for what she thought was a throat infection.
The family was devastated when the pediatrician broke the news.
"By the time she finished talking, everyone in my family was sitting on the floor," said the father. "I mean, it literally floored us. We couldn't even stand."
His daughter cried out, "I don't want to die!" and sobbed in her parents' arms.
The doctor told the family that there's a 40-50 per cent survival rate with blood transfusions and a 65 per cent chance with a bone marrow transplant.
They flatly rejected the suggested treatment, simply saying they were Jehovah's Witnesses.
But then the father opened his Bible to Acts 15:28, one of the passages the Witnesses cite for refusing blood transfusions. Over and over, he read:
"For the Holy Spirit and we ourselves, ask a favour adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from the things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you."
He had read the words hundreds of times since becoming a Witness 20 years ago in Belleville, Ont. He had simply accepted what he was told in religious meetings: no heavenly paradise for those who accept another's blood.
"I was struggling with those scriptures and reading others that talk a great deal about the sanctity of life, how important life is," he said.
He finally concluded it would be wrong, even cruel, to watch his daughter die without trying to save her.
"I went over the scriptures with my daughter to try to help her understand the way I interpreted it," he said.
"She was not responsive to me. She wasn't interested."
If the teenager had agreed to a transfusion, she too would be disowned by her mother and her sisters, her father said.
"She's lived such an isolated, controlled life -- all her friends are Jehovah's Witnesses," he said.
He talks to his daughter each day on the phone. Sometimes she gets angry, telling him, "I hate you," but there are kinder, gentler moments when she says the opposite.
The few conversations he now has with his wife are brief.
"She gets very upset and cries," he said.
"She'd remind me that every time my daughter gets a blood transfusion she's being raped, it's having irreparable harm to my daughter."
He has had many sleepless nights in his empty home. He finds himself weeping uncontrollably at unexpected times -- in the car, sometimes with a mouth full of food.
He continues to work at an architectural firm and spends most of his time talking to lawyers and doctors, feeding his children's rabbits, and cleaning the house.
"Before, there were four people looking after the house. Now there's only myself."
He hasn't yet been expelled from the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's a formality he expects will soon happen.
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Drug Used to Seduce Men
by WildTurkey indrug used to seduce men .
men, please read this if you go to bars or clubs: .
guys, be more alert and cautious when getting a drink offer from a girl.
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I feel so violated....
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Mad Apostate has "Left the building" ...
by LDH inyou bad little boys and girls have gone and done it--you've really pissed mad apostate off!.
in this thread .
* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22747&site=3.
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If you really want MA back there is only one way:
HEY, MAD APOSTATE! YOU STUPID JERK, DON'T EVER COME BACK AND PLEASE SO NOT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS AS YOU LEAVE! WE HATE YOU AND HOPE TO NEVER HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN!
That should do it, he will never leave now.
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Change your sales tactics, Jehovah
by messenger inchange your sales tactics, jehovah .
http://www.news24.co.za/city_press/city_press_leaders/0,1885,186-189_1151992,00.html.
jehovah sent a bigger brigade than usual of witnesses to yeoville yesterday morning, determined to badger sinners into converting to their faith before the second coming.
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Change your sales tactics, Jehovah
. http://www.news24.co.za/City_Press/City_Press_Leaders/0,1885,186-189_1151992,00.html
Jehovah sent a bigger brigade than usual of witnesses to Yeoville yesterday morning, determined to badger sinners into converting to their faith before the Second Coming. You couldn't miss them even if you didn't believe in the First Coming.Maybe somebody should tell Jehovah to change his (or her) sales tactics. It's not nice being accosted by a persistent salesperson when you are carrying five litres of wine, and then the salesperson sets the agenda for the discussion and seems unconcerned that you may be in a hurry.
Presumably one is not supposed to be rude and tell Jehovah's would-be witnesses to buzz off or they could enter the Kingdom of God before the Second Coming.