i asked my gf who is a jw but not an active one if she has ever read coc and she tells me she has and that his book was mostly lies about the organization and that's the reason he left was because he was tempted by a hooker and ended up sleeping with her.
he told the elders what he did because he was looking for help and he ended up getting df.
later he found out he ended up contract hiv.
This is the girl I am supposed to marry. I hope her beliefs do not interfere with our relationship.
Dude, head for ze hills! Her beliefs are most definitely going to interfere with your relationship. If you marry her, she'll try to win you over - if you have kids, you can be sure she'll be determined to raise 'em as she may have been - good lil' JW drones.
RUN, DON'T WALK, TO THE NEAREST EXIT!!!
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
communication is not bad.
healthy associations are not bad either.
but, note the counsel paul gave to titus.. titus 2:1 says "you, however, keep on speaking what things are fitting for healthful teaching.".
**Do I enjoy debate? I do.**
Hard to understand how you get so much enjoyment out of something you're so ill-equipped to participate in! Tell me, is this sort of thing encouraged in your new "Shepherding" book for elders?
;)
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
an interesting scripture reminds us to be careful of those that question every good thing that the f&ds does:.
titus 1:10-16 .
"10 for there are many unruly men, profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind, especially those men who adhere to the circumcision.
**Titus 1:10-16 **
Huh! It would seem that this passage refers to the current "governing body", rather than any so-called "apostates"! Some suggested reading, "ARRRRGGGGHHHH":
"Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search of Christian Freedom", both authored by Raymond Franz.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to weep and gnash my teeth...
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
i thought it might be interesting to see how many here remember where and when they were baptised into the borg.
for some the memory may be too painful, but i'm curious.. me.
it was 1966 in vancouver, bc.
June 15, 1985 - THE YEAR THE QUESTIONS CHANGED :p
Jacksonville, FL
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
ive been reading a lot on the issue of child molestion and the watchtower society.
ive read some things about the borg settling cases out-of-court but i havent heard many details.. does anyone know if the watchtower has agreed to any terms for settling a case that involve non-monetary terms?
for example, today i read in the l.a. daily journal about the catholic church settling a case that involved these terms:.
**I couldn't disagree more. A mainstream church is now being forced into it. What's to prevent that from happening to a mainstream cult?**
I did not say it could NEVER happen; just that the chances are slim that the WT would be willing to do so. They very well may be pressured to have such a provision, either on their web site, or in ads on the back of their magazines - but be assured that much kicking and screaming will occur before that happens. The WT has a history of being slow to react when it comes to any action that could be percieved as an admission of guilt on their part.
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
ive been reading a lot on the issue of child molestion and the watchtower society.
ive read some things about the borg settling cases out-of-court but i havent heard many details.. does anyone know if the watchtower has agreed to any terms for settling a case that involve non-monetary terms?
for example, today i read in the l.a. daily journal about the catholic church settling a case that involved these terms:.
RAY -
Since the chances of the WT having a phone line or web site for reporting child molestation are slim to none, Bill Bowen has already designed a wonderful site for this:
Hope that helps.
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
well, here it is, after almost 20 years 12 of those serving in position of responsibility it comes down to my spiritual execution(jw style).
allow me to explain.
for those who you who still remember me from h20 under the name truthexodus i came to post my experience as an elder of local congregation in nyc area.
Ballistic:
H2O was another DB that folded, & now has a new incarnation. They are found at % http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=311102
"Dateline" is a television news program on NBC in the US. They do in-depth reporting on a wide variety of issues. They can be found at
Hope that helps.
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
well, here it is, after almost 20 years 12 of those serving in position of responsibility it comes down to my spiritual execution(jw style).
allow me to explain.
for those who you who still remember me from h20 under the name truthexodus i came to post my experience as an elder of local congregation in nyc area.
TRUTHEXODUS
I DO remember you from H2O - I am glad that you are dumping that band of dimwits. I also live/work in the NYC area - e-mail sometime.
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
i am erica garza rodriguez.
i wanted to write and thank all of you for your interest and support during this long pursuit of justice.. to those wonderful friends who were able to travel to ritzville for the trial, my heart overflows with humble gratitude.. bill bowen (and wife sheila, behind the scene).
b (you know who you are), pat, chris, richard and wife, gsark, baharama and sister, maximus, were you there?
(((((((((((ERICA)))))))))))))))
You are a true Angel - courageous, firm, bold and full of conviction! We are so proud of you for being strong, and helping to see that justice was served! There is still much to be done, but your actions and words will make it that much easier for those who follow you into their own court battles. Bravissima!
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
dear jw,.
i have some questions.
as i understand it, if armageddon came tomorrow, those that never heard the truth, in such places as india or china would either live through armageddon or die and be resurrected.
**Now, if my logic is correct, why should you spend any time in field service? Wouldn't it be better to leave everyone alone? They would have a better chance of making it to the new world that way. If you mess up, their blood is on your shoulders. If you never talk to them, you are blameless.**
LARC:
I came to the same conclusion years ago! It was one of the reasons why I left the bOrg. Such a waste of time and resources - ultimately only benefits the WTBTS.
--Michael
"Any day spent NOT knocking on doors is a good day!"
