Cofty, your letter if far better than the other one!
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My Letter to local Newspapaer - Your Feedback Please?
by cofty inmy local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.
a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .
vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .
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My Letter to local Newspapaer - Your Feedback Please?
by cofty inmy local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.
a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .
vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .
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Congrats Cofty on a job well done! Will we be able to see the paper online?
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How many rules to JW´s have? Gregorson says 1,777
by Botzwana inhttp://thegoverningbody.org/holy-walls-and-the-winds-of-change-part-1/#more-1047.
is that true?
i have never counted them up but it would be so interesting to see considering the israelites only had 600....
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Randy Watters made reference to the 1,177 rules (not 1,777) in his resignation letter to the GB.
"[Albert Schroeder] holds up the Branch Organization Procedure book and pointed out it's 1,177 rules and regulations, knowing full well what Romans 7:6 says about Christians following sets of 'spiritual rules'. Then he actually admits that the beliefs of those dismissed were not an apostasy from the Bible, but from the organization! There IS a difference, isn't there?"
This is in the 9th paragraph of the letter, located here,
(Sorry, you will have to copy and paste that into your web browser.)
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Field Service time wasters
by xelder inlast saturday morning, i ran to the hardware store.
a former co (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store.
i stopped at starbucks....more jw's.
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Driving back and forth across town, making return visits, when they could easily be grouped together to save time.
But saving time isn't the point, is it?
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Dumb question regarding the governing body...
by scooterspank inwhere are they from?
are they all from the united states or are some from other countries?
question just kind of hit me....
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Re: Where are Governing Body members from?
I found this info here, almost half way down the page,
http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=398&sid=14f2ef8c1c5771716bdf6184ceeb44ed&mforum=jw
(Note, John Barr is now deceased)
Barr, John E: Scotland
Herd, Samuel F: America
Jackson Geoffrey: Australia
Lett, Steven: America
Lösch Gerrit: Austria
Morris, Anthony: America
Pierce, Guy H: America
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Lawyers Response Resigned and Withdrawn Elder
by Marvin Shilmer inlawyers response resigned and withdrawn elder .
today i uploaded a new article to my blog containing a 14-page incredibly detailed response from a watchtower lawyer to a long-time high-ranking elder who had resigned and withdrawn his association with watchtower.
my article is titled lawyers response resigned and withdrawn elder and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/09/lawyers-response-resigned-and-withdrawn.html.
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Re: Viewing the magnified image.
After selecting an image from the small icons at the bottom, and right clicking on that image, I chose 'View Image", which gave me an image that can be magnified.
I am using Firefox, and the choices of “Open Link in New Tab” or “Open Link in New Window” are not available.
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Lawyers Response Resigned and Withdrawn Elder
by Marvin Shilmer inlawyers response resigned and withdrawn elder .
today i uploaded a new article to my blog containing a 14-page incredibly detailed response from a watchtower lawyer to a long-time high-ranking elder who had resigned and withdrawn his association with watchtower.
my article is titled lawyers response resigned and withdrawn elder and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/09/lawyers-response-resigned-and-withdrawn.html.
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I can't get page 8 to show. However, I am getting 2 page 9s. (both the 8th and 9th small icons at the bottom of the page bring up page 9)
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Australian branch co-ordinator sent to Poland. Victorian court case?
by yesidid inan australian friend "in high places" told me that their branch overseer or whatever he is called now,.
has been sent to poland.. because of the timing i just wondered if this is connected to the victorian court case.
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The organization makes itself look suspicious by not complying with this law. Why won't it? One reason would be if the W was trying to protect someone who couldn't pass the background check. If it is eventually forced to comply, then how would the Society protect those people? By moving them out of Australia seems a reasonable answer.
It will be interesting to see if others up and move to another branch. When there is no chance of embarrassment, then the Society will comply...and probably act as if it was the first organization to do so.
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Victoria, Australia: FYI-Far reaching ramifications of the criminal indictment of the GB
by AndersonsInfo infyi: the following material that im providing comes from a source in australia, an xjw who is now monitoring the case and will provide feedback, comments, and opinions.
barbara.
the governing body of jehovah's witnesses was recently summoned to appear in the magistrates' court of victoria on september 13, 2011 in relation to a number of indictable criminal offences allegedly committed.
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"... it has been going on for quite some time now. So - now we can wait until October 11, right?"
But isn't it really just getting started? As someone mentioned, the legal system is a big wheel that turns very slowly. Delays, postponements, continuations, requests for this and that, are all part of the normal legal process, are they not? I'm not suggesting this case will 'bring down the Watchtower', but if the only outcome is that the Society is made to comply, then it's a great victory.
I have wondered why it hasn't already complied. To not go along with a law that is designed to protect children leaves me a little mystified, especially when that organization claims to be the only true Christian religion on earth. Is the organization hiding something? Maybe, maybe not, but compliance is the right thing.
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Victoria, Australia: All five cases made it through the court. Nothing thrown out!
by AndersonsInfo inon the suggestion of the office of public prosecutions, mr steven unthank made application to the magistrate that the case be transferred to the summary stream and listed as a summary mention on 11 october 2011.. .
on the suggestion of the office of public prosecutions, mr steven unthank made application to the magistrate that the case be transferred to the summary stream and listed as a summary mention on 11 october 2011.. .
following a request by mr steven unthank, the magistrate ordered that the case be transferred to the summary stream and listed as a summary mention on 11 october 2011.. .
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I have something of a side question for Barbara, or others.
Why did Steven Unthank, a private citizen, have to take on this case if the first place? It doesn't make sense to me for Victoria to have a child protective law that it will not inforce through the proper authorities. If other religious groups have complied, but the Watchtower has not, what was the government going to do, let the Watchtower slide by forever? What would be point of the law, and how would it protect children, in that case?
Is there an authority in Victoria (or any other part of Australia where a similar law exists) that has gone after any group, religious or secular, for non-compliance?