Posts by ScenicViewer

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WTS successfully refutes bogus UN conspiracy theory/hoax

by trthskr in

http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.

there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.

cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..

ScenicViewer

I guess no one viewed that video I found on YT.

I watched all of it. It seemed to be an accurate portrayal of the Watchtower view of the Beasts of Revelation, and most of the pictures looked like they were from the Revelation book.

I guess I don't get your point in posting it. It shows the UN is headed for destruction, along with all the rest of Satan's worldwide political system. Which raises the question, why would the Watchtower want to have anything to do with the UN? The scriptural rule says,

"Therefore get out from among them and separate yourselves, says Jehovah, and quit touching the unclean thing, and I will take you in...says Jehovah the Almighty." (2 Cor 6:17, 18)

As many have mentioned, this is a case of the Watchtower not only violating Bible guidelines, but the very policies it imposes on others as well.

Can you see what an unscriptural double standard that is?

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WTS successfully refutes bogus UN conspiracy theory/hoax

by trthskr in

http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.

there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.

cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..

ScenicViewer

You're being too rigid and inflexable...

Can anyone believe a Watchtower supporter said that?

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WTS successfully refutes bogus UN conspiracy theory/hoax

by trthskr in

http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.

there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.

cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..

ScenicViewer

You're being too rigid and inflexable about things. Everything isn't black and white in the world.

You could say the same thing about swimming at the YMCA, but that is a disfellowshipping offense. It's the Watchtower that makes inflexible rules. Then violates them at it's own convenience. It's a grotesque double standard. Why can't you see that?

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WTS successfully refutes bogus UN conspiracy theory/hoax

by trthskr in

http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.

there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.

cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..

ScenicViewer

As soon as the WTS learned that the requirements (entailing UN support) had changed, they immediately withdrew their membership.

No they didn't. They applied for disassociation as soon as they were exposed in the press; when the information went public and they couldn't hide it anymore. This in itself is a sign of guilt. Any judicial committee would tell you that.

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why do jw's think that by behaving weridly they are giving a "good witness"?

by highdose in

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you know when they refuse to attend family functions that invole anything religous, won't chink glasses, won't allow their children any freedom etc.

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from their perspective they think they are setting "a fine example" and givng a "good witness" the outsiders just think they are bat crazy but the jw's just can't see it???

ScenicViewer

Outlaw should be arrested for starting laugh riots!

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Another arson attack at the University Heights KH in San Diego

by Isidore in

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posted a couple of hours ago..... .

http://www.upi.com/top_news/us/2012/01/03/arsonist-hits-jehovahs-witness-hall/upi-63291325613774/?spt=hs&or=tn.

ScenicViewer

$500,000 in damages one time, and $400,000 in damages the next. Can this KH be worth over a million dollars? Must be in the high rent district.

And now a third attempt, but it didn't ignite. Somebody's going to have to hire a security guard.

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When did this "written review" idea get started?

by james_woods in

for some reason, i simply cannot remember any written review being done and graded in all my jw time (1962 to about 1980).. have i completely forgotten this, or did it get started after i had left?.

ScenicViewer

I remember the first time I was at a meeting where a written review was taken. I thought, 'You have to take tests in this religion?' I should have seen that as a red flag and run far and fast!

A few scans...

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Witnessing WatchTower weasel words first hand

by darthfader in

i don't have the stomach to read much of their literature lately, but it seems to me that every article i read was loaded with weasel words.

is this still their mo?

for an interesting set of examples, i looked up the following wikipedia article on weasel words: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/weasel_word.

ScenicViewer

Reading that list is like reading the Watchtower's "the Bible conclusively proves" remarks.

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"We needed to use the library"... and other wacky Watchtower excuses.

by cedars in

i'm sure we're all familiar with the crazy excuse that the watch tower society leadership came up with to justify their nine year period as a un ngo (non governmental organization).

amazingly, this seems to make perfect sense with watch tower apologists, who don't stop for a moment to ponder the following:.

you don't need to be a un ngo to use the un libraryif it was so innocent for them to hold un ngo status just to use the library, why did they withdraw their status when the issue received media attention?that aside, we are now witnessing the unravelling of fresh scandals to hit the society, most notably:.

ScenicViewer

A few of my favorite lame excuses:

Another one, and one of my favorites,

-- We are stopping magazine subscriptions, not to save on mailing costs, but so you will have one more good reason to get to meetings...to get your magazines!

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The WT, the Millerites and Orson Wells

by Aussie Oz in

it is well known of course that ct russell was a fan of william miller and the mans teachings.

indeed his colaboration with millerite nelson barbour cemented russells love of all that was millerism.. i recall some time ago a thread wherin it was mentioned that fred franz had a library stuffed full of millerite books and so on, and that he himself modeled his own style of address and writing after william miller himself.. with that sort of impact on the doctrines and teaching methods adopted by the society at that time, i am also wondering about orson wells book 1984.. could it be plausable that this book also has its place on the shelves of some locked away private library?

published in 1949, the wt leadership has had plenty of time to study the methods of the novel and try them out.

ScenicViewer

I did a check of the Index to early WatchTowers. Haven't had time to look these up, but there are several references to Miller and Second Adventism.

(The numbers refer to pages and paragraphs from the WatchTower Reprints)

Second Adventists
- Fulfill part of parable of ten virgins, 3868: 3-5
- In regard to meeting with, 1070: 16; 1070: 1-3
- Correct view of teachings of, 719: 1-4, 10
- Leading error of, 469: 6,7
- Part of, in contributing to present truth, 3821: 7

William Miller
- Faith in Christ’s appearing, 480: 5-8
- Movement began in 1844, 288: 9
- Significance of, 87: 11-13; 5718: 2-4