Posts by ScenicViewer

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Beroean Pickets writer speaks out to explain what opened his eyes as a JW

by nonjwspouse in

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i remember reading this site and wondering how much of ttatt the writer(s) knew.

now i just found these series of you tube videos by the writer.

leaving jehovah's witnesses: "religion is a snare and a racket".

ScenicViewer

I've watched just 3 min of this video so far, and it is OUTSTANDING in showing the double standards of the Watchtower Organization. Now for the rest.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

I'm wondering what kind of backlash there will be about this within Bethel and the Governing Body. Maybe Watchtower will try to spin it, but how can you spin it into something that's ok? Bring attention to it might make it worse. It doesn't matter what you do, this doesn't look good for AM3 or the Organization.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

ScenicViewer

One of the things that really gets me about this is that the Governing Body encourages little kids to give their ice cream money to Jehovah's Organization, while Anthony Morris III uses his money to buy hard liquor. The $850 he spent would have gone a lot farther toward "kingdom interests" than a child's dollar.

Another thing, mentioned previously, is that it's entirely inappropriate for someone that has taken a "vow of poverty" to spend lavishly on alcohol - I don't care where the money came from, even if it was his own.

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Jehovahs Witness n Retention rates !!! Check this out.

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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a study of religious retention rates–that is, what percentage of people raised in a particular church or religion stay with it when they are grown–is quite interesting.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2012/07/religious-retention-rates/.

jdubs have alittle over 36%.

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One of the most glaring JW failures is the inability to keep their young people. They are God's true people, so they say, but they have never come close to fulfilling Prov 22:6...

Train a boy in the way he should go; Even when he grows old he will not depart from it. (Prov 22:6, Revised NWT)

Elder's kids, pioneer's kids, ordinary publisher's kids, it doesn't matter. The majority have always left and today it's likely worse than ever.

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(Petty) Gambling No Longer A Judicial Offense?

by Solzhenitsyn in

i searched "gambling" on this forum and only found old threads.

so thought i'd share.

perhaps it has already been commented on and i am just repeating.. see you all in vegas baby!

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When I came into the organization, in the early 1970s, I seem to remember that even penny ante poker was off limits. You had to play with tokens. Now recreational gambling is ok.

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Dubtown episode - melch’s week from hell

by Dubtown in

new dubtown episode.

poor melch cant take part in anything in high school.

https://youtu.be/egcegptsn00.

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Regarding the fact that some of the blood fractions that JWs are allowed to take amount to a larger percentage of blood than other components that are prohibited, young Melchizedek asks....

Is it true that size matters to the Governing Body, or is it what we do with it that matters? (at the 9:16 to 10:19 mark)

Oh dear. The subtle humor that Kevin McFree puts into his videos is too good!

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Is The Watchtower Society Just Copying The Mormon's Model?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a faithful jw i was pretty much obsessed with the mormon religion.

to me it was like lord of the rings.

i knew the characters, the history, the events, the joseph smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and i long suspected even then that the watchtower society has been copying certain things from the lds church.. for example, the first thing i noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started.

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Has anyone mentioned the GoBags? I believe the Mormons have had those for decades too.

It makes sense that Watchtower would copy the Mormons. Mormons are only slightly older as a religion than the Watchtower, but there are about twice as many Mormons in the world as Jehovah's Witnesses - 17 or 18 million (according to the two Missionaries who recently came to my house) vs about 8.5 million JWs.

I too believe that the Governing Body is trying to copy the Mormon's success.

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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

that means it can proceed further.

it is a first victory.

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While I don't like many things in the JWs, such as how they direct people's life outside the religion, shunning, blood, I do believe that the religion is the correct one according to the Bible.

There is no way all of that could be true.

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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

that means it can proceed further.

it is a first victory.

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" Do you really think that such a person will molest a child in front a second witness?"
Do you think that such a person will molest an adult in front of a second witness?

Don't forget, you had asked the question "Why was there only one witness to abuse? The answer is obvious.

The point of your response here isn't very clear, but you do raise an important issue regarding a Watchtower double standard. According to Duet 2:27 two witnesses are not required in the case of sexual crimes.

27 for he found her in the field, the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. (American Standard Version)

If there was no one to save an adult victim of rape, who cried out for help, then there was obviously no one there to be a second witness. Despite that the rapist was to be put to death (v 25, 26). It is clear that other kinds of evidence were brought in for consideration, but Watchtower only accepts the testimony of two witnesses to catch a child molester.

To detect those other kinds of evidence you need professionals such as the police, but in almost all cases Watchtower refuses to contact any authority.

Watchtower's double standard is that the Organization claims it's hands are tied by the Bible and the two witness rule, while completely ignoring another part of the Bible.

I realize that this whole child abuse issues exists because it is easy to use against the Watchtower.

Ah, the persecution card again. Forget about the terribly abused child victims but weep for poor Wathtower for hiding the entire sordid issue, as if the whole world is out to get them.

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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

that means it can proceed further.

it is a first victory.

ScenicViewer

Why was there only one witness to the abuse?

Because child molesters are typically very cautious, sometimes even grooming their victims over a long period of time. Do you really think that such a person will molest a child in front a second witness? (The child victim is one witness, but his/her word isn't good enough for JWs.)