Posts by ScenicViewer

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Do the Governing Body members ever go Door-to-Door?

by 00DAD in

in his book, in search of christian freedom, ray franz wrote that that gb members for the most part never participated in door-to-door work.

they were "too busy with more important things.

" (gee, how come that excuse wouldn't work for the rest of us?

ScenicViewer

...I don't know if it's photoshopped or not, but it is definitely STAGED

There was a thread on here re that photo with Herd. Several posters noticed things that weren't natural about the photo. A few are

-The lighting on the other man is mottled, sunlight and shadow, but the lighting on Herd is very smooth, probably studio.

-Herd's head seems to be pasted in, not natural looking.

-Issues with the grass.

-The other brother's hand seems to be missing. To cover it, fingers are put in on Herd's right shoulder as if that's where his hand is. Also, they are way too close to be walking in service. No two men walk so close together that their bodies are virtually touching each other.

-There is an issue at the bottom of the brothers bookbag, something the Photosho artist didn't clean up. Enlargement below.

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Are JW's allowed to be bartenders?

by stillstuckcruz in

my brother(ms) just got a job at a hotel and mentioned to my mother that they may train him to be a bartender.

she said that we(jw's) are not allowed to do so.

is this in any of the publications?

ScenicViewer

I was offered a job as a limo driver but the older ones told me it was not a good idea.

Who were you driving the limo for? A gang of bank robbers? If not, the older ones were probably making up their own rules.

(Watchtower 10-1-1972, Article: Your Conscience and Your Employment, par.3)

"3 As a simple illustration, serving as a chauffeur and driving an automobile is in itself proper employment. But how could a person professing to be a Christian serve as chauffeur for a gang of bank robbers? Or how could a Christian let himself be identified with a house of prostitution by serving as its doorman or maid?"

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Do the Governing Body members ever go Door-to-Door?

by 00DAD in

in his book, in search of christian freedom, ray franz wrote that that gb members for the most part never participated in door-to-door work.

they were "too busy with more important things.

" (gee, how come that excuse wouldn't work for the rest of us?

ScenicViewer

The photo of GB member Samuel Herd in field service, published in the 12-15-11 Watchtower, is 100% fake. Signs of Photoshop everywhere.

Does the WTS do this to mislead us into thinking that the GB is taking the lead in all aspects of Christian service?

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What Was Nathan Knorr Like Compared To The Other Presidents?

by AvocadoJake in

brother knorr is rarely mentioned in the awake or watchtower and i don't really know much about him.

is there a reason why brother knorr does not receive as much mention as brother russell, rutherford or even frantz?

can you help me understand why he was like?

ScenicViewer

Knorr was mainly an organization man. He expanded the preaching work of JWs greatly, as well as advanced so called 'Theocratic' education in the religion by starting a few schools.

(Going by memory, and I may be wrong, he started the missionary school of Gilead and the Theocratic Ministry School in the congregations.)

He had Franz behind him as the prophecy man in the organization. Franz was responsible for the 1975 understandings, which came during Knorr's administration. I see them as being a team, more so than any other duo in the organization.

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by average joe in

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witnesses say they are not allowed to share convention notes, bible talks, videos etc etc.

i am pretty sure they're literature says they can.

does anyone know of a watchtower magazine or other publication that says they are allowed to share such things?

ScenicViewer

...can't edit post.

For some reason I couldn't edit my post either. Does anyone know why it isn't working on this thread? No problem on other posts.

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by average joe in

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friends

witnesses say they are not allowed to share convention notes, bible talks, videos etc etc.

i am pretty sure they're literature says they can.

does anyone know of a watchtower magazine or other publication that says they are allowed to share such things?

ScenicViewer

(Next to last par) Further, circulating transcripts or recordings of talks might tempt some to give or accept undue attention and honour.

(Last sentence) We can be confident that the faithful and discreet slave and its Governing Body will provide what we need in order to be made firm in the faith.

That kind of talk had gotten to be a little nauseating for the last 20 years I was in, and is down right sickening now.

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Anybody got a full 1967 Awake set?

by Teary Oberon in

anybody got the full year's worth of awakes for 1967 that they would be willing to share?.

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the 1967 awake set is the only year that i am lacking before 1970. i've seen a partial set floating around, but never the full year though .

ScenicViewer

Curious here; you say "Awake set." Are you looking for individual magazines for the whole year, or will a bound volume do?

If a bound volume is ok, they can be found on ebay for a few dollars plus a shipping fee of about $4, if you are in the USA, and if you want English. They don't come up every day, but if you watch it for a few weeks, you will find one.

The individual magazines are much harder to find.

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Film: In Darkness -- History of Jehovah's Witnesses WT Bible & Tract Society

by leavingwt in

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friends

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if you've never seen this one-hour film, it's pretty interesting.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz_7uj-fo0.

ScenicViewer

@ blond-moment, I highly recommend reading the letters between himself and Brooklyn on this matter.

Thank you for that reference. Downloaded for later reading.

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The May 22, 1994, issue of Awake!

by PSacramento in

this is the awake that has the pictures of kids that died because they or their families refused blood.. my jw mom refuse to believe that the wt would put their faces on a magazine.. does anyone know where i can get a copy or download it?.

thanks.

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ScenicViewer

Cover and page 2 (inside front cover)

Large file size, should be suitable for printing.

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Letter read to Victorian congregations re WCC

by Mattieu in

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had an interesting chat with my ex re the current debate over working with children checks - of which she has one due to her volunteering at our childrens primary school.

i remember when she had to apply that i made the comment elders & mss should be having background checks due to the history of abuse in the borg and covering up (these discussions normally dont go down well as she is well and truly blinded, well meaning, but blinded).. anywho, she told me about the recent letter that was read to all the victorian congregations, she couldnt tell me verbatim what it said, though the gist was that is no real need for elders to get this check, but rather they are complying with what has been asked legally.. now i dont know if what she said next was based on the letter read or the after discussions at the k/hall, but she made the comment the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers... i tried reasoning that another elder who moves in from interstate is certainly a stranger, until you get to know him on a personal level.

didnt matter how i reasoned or what incidents i bought up, the view amongst her and the other mums that she hangs around in the cong is that the elders getting a wcc check is totally unnecessary and that the jws are being picked on.. next week, i am meeting up with a mate who is an elder here in victoria and trying to step down, so will pick his brains and see if he can get a copy.... .

ScenicViewer

“the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers…”

This is typical JW spin-thinking. Molesters get to know their victims, gain their confidence, make them comfortable, then make a move. Virtually all, if not absolutely all, the JW molesters were brothers who knew their victims. That's how it works.

The elders/older men/father/priests in other churches are not strangers either, but they still agree to the need to comply.

Bingo!