Posts by ScenicViewer

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Secret Dating

by pinkpizza in

so i moved out of my small town into the big city and staying with an older sister i’ve been having some fun in the big city wink wink.

but i have a good standing with the congregation in the city they are nice but don’t really pay a lot of attention to me.

i have been dating a “worldly guy” who is amazing love him but the older sister said he wasn’t allowed in the house.

ScenicViewer

Often, those of us who were raised JW...assume no one but JW"s have moral standards. Some even assume that once you're not a JW, you automatically have to run out and start living some debauched lifestyle and they get themselves into some serious trouble...

Nicely said and absolutely true.

JWs are supposed to think that if you leave the Organization your life will descend into drug abuse, alcoholism, or some perverted life style. Generated by Watchtower it's a complete myth, by design, because it's a one of the hooks that keeps you following a man-made religion.

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New JW phrase: bouquet of truth

by ohnightdivine in

i heard it from someone who attended the latest wt study, and quickly posted it with - you guessed it - a picture of a lovely flower bouquet.

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"how big is your bouquet of truth?".

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“Cherished Errors”

I've not heard that one before. It's really a way of saying JWs cherish their false teachings.

Half Banana, that's a very good explanation of 'bouquet of truth.'

It's a fitting expression of JWs temporary and fleeting kind of 'truth,' it's here today and gone tomorrow, then it becomes a 'cherished error' and we move on to another lie dressed up as some pretty thing that is designed to mislead those who fail to think.

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New JW phrase: bouquet of truth

by ohnightdivine in

i heard it from someone who attended the latest wt study, and quickly posted it with - you guessed it - a picture of a lovely flower bouquet.

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"how big is your bouquet of truth?".

ScenicViewer

In the language of Jehovah's Witnesses,

Bouquet of Truth = Garbage Heap of Lies.

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More Developments In Australia

by jonahstourguide in

some results of the royal commission in australia.

catholic church ellis defence scrapped in 'momentous day' for abuse survivorsby michelle brownposted about 2 hours ago john ellis speaks to the media outside the nsw supreme court.photo: john ellis, a former lawyer, tried to sue the catholic church for negligence (aap: paul miller)related story: nsw child abuse survivors to be allowed to sue churchesafter an 11-year battle, survivors of institutional child abuse locked out of suing for compensation will be able to launch civil claims from today.key points:the ellis defence prevented abuse survivors from suing unincorporated organisations including churches and other institutionsthe move to scrap it came after recommendations from the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.from today, an institution must nominate a defendant with sufficient assets to pay a survivor's claim.the so-called "ellis defence", which prevented abuse survivors from suing unincorporated organisations including churches and other institutions, is today abolished after the nsw government removed a legal road block.the move came after recommendations from the royal commission into institutional child sex abuse.john ellis, whose failed court of appeal case against the catholic church in 2007 gave rise to the defence, has praised the government's action.

"it's fantastic news," he told the abc.

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The Ellis defence prevented abuse survivors from suing unincorporated organisations including churches and other institutions
The move to scrap it came after recommendations from the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. (Bold added)

It's been said a few times that the Royal Commission, although doing good work in exposing child abuse, actually has no teeth to bring about change - a 'toothless tiger' I think it was called. This ruling proves just the opposite, that the ARC is influencing great change, and hopefully it will reach to Watchtower.

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2018-Annual Service Report!

by Atlantis in

if this has already been posted just disregard.. 2018 annual service report one in english and one in spanish.

other news included.

zipped folder.

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...it took 7,363 hours of field service to produce one baptism. That's three and half years of full time work to make one baptized publisher.

And probably most of the baptisms were of born-ins, who were going to get baptized anyway. The number of hrs to bring someone in from the field would be much higher. That's pretty dismal for the Organization.

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How would you reason with a JW that it is okay to say Good Luck?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?.

ScenicViewer

How would you reason with a JW that is okay to say Good Luck?

We can start by showing them what their own literature says.

(W 9-1-1980 QFR p30, par4) "Gamblers often magnify 'Lady Luck.' For them "luck" is not a word merely meaning good results, but is a superhuman influence like a god. Greed and pride move gamblers to trust in "luck."" (bold added)

It seems that saying 'luck' to simply mean good results is alright, but to rely on the God of Good Luck in serious ways, such as gambling, is off limits.

I don't know if Watchtower actually taught at one time that saying 'luck' in any fashion was bad because it was pagan, and later backed up on that, or if it was simply a myth that arose among Witnesses to begin with.

At any rate, when we say 'good luck' to someone, or 'wasn't I lucky because I found a dollar,' we simply mean good results.

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Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i sneakily read his books at work.

it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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I had a look at one chapter of one of his books (I can't remember which one) on Amazon via their "Look Inside" feature. It was about blood transfusions.

The part that really hit me was whether taking a blood transfusion was the same as eating blood. The illustration he used was that if a man who was starving to death was given a transfusion would he be 'nourished' as if he had eaten something, or would he still be starving to death. Answer: He would still be starving to death, therefore eating blood and transfusing blood were two completely different things.

That had a major impact on me. Thank you Ray Franz!

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Have you seen these drawings against medical procedures?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

these come from the golden age of june 8, 1932:.

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...I have the list of all articles and mentions of vaccines... the list itself is 5 pages long!!

I would like to have a copy of that list - is it published somewhere? Do you have a link?

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Leah Remini Redux, Tonight Again in Prime Time

by Room 215 in

remini's program will be shown again tonight in the u.s. at 8:00 pm eastern time on a & e

ScenicViewer

Check your TV listings for the specific time.

My provider is airing it at 6:00 PM Pacific Time - Xfinity (Comcast Fresno).

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Blood Transfusion Permitted

by Nevuela in

i just overheard an anointed acquaintance on the phone with a friend of hers who has just had surgery for cervical cancer.

among the snippets of dialogue i heard on my end of the line, these ones stood out:.

"you lost a lot of blood?

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"You did what you had to do to stay alive and take care of your kids."

This is the part that really gets me. How is that not also true of an active, baptised JW? Why do one's own life and the kids' welfare become meaningless after being baptised?

It's another typical double standard of Jehovah's Witnesses.