i found a tract at my door.
it was from a local baptist church!
( actually,i think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items i gave away.
" I never did think it right that JW expected others to read their tracts, but wouldn't accept other religions tracts. ( I took their tracts-thought it rude not to. )"
Good for you! I too was bothered by the fact that we expect others to take JW literature but we had to reject theirs. What a tremendous double standard. Now I see it as information control from a very controlling religious organization.
after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.
i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.
but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.
@ Phizzy, the book "Life Arising"
Could you have meant Life Ascending, by Nick Lane?
https://cne.news/article/3755-norwegian-jehovah-s-witnesses-demand-subsidy-despite-their-loss-of-religious-status.
jesus never demanded "subsidies" from the government to share truth.
wtbt$ leaders love the god of their bellies/selfishdesires - having others provide communes for them in opposition to christ's direction.. .
Hypocrites!
As J.T. and Lady Cee (Youtube) like to accurately say, "Nobody does hypocrisy like Jehovah's Witnesses."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
"GG4GB uploaded a great video outlining this."
Can you give us a Link?
this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
I think there is about to be a major increase in the Jehovah's Witness organization.
You don't have to go door to door, or take part in the cart work - all you have to do now is check a box that says you took part in some part of the ministry, a simple passing remark to someone would qualify you to check that box.
Hours will go down but they aren't counted anymore anyway, however the number of publishers will sky rocket!
It's so easy to be a publisher now.
Of course the Organization will advertise that increase and say 'Look how Jehovah is blessing his spirit directed organization on earth today.'
the first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
"Sam Herd said "Beginning November 1, 2023, congregation publishers will no longer be asked to report the amount of time they spend in the ministry. Nor will publishers be asked to report their placements...instead the field service report will simply have a box to indicate that the publisher shared in any form of the ministry." (bold added)
To stop reporting time seems major to me. For decades the Organization has been collecting and reporting hours and placement numbers to show how 'Jehovah's Organization is growing in these critical last days.'
Is Watchtower in such extreme decline that it needs to hide the fact that the numbers are going down? I haven't trusted their numbers for a long time - I feel they simply found ways to spin the numbers into looking better than they really are.
What else will they stop reporting? Maybe the total number of congregations, which has been dwindling too?`
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https://x.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1704588790730256487?s=20.
*where are you getting your numbers?*
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https://x.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1704588790730256487?s=20.
What numbers are you going by to know for a certainty that Watchtower won't be here in 5 years? The Biblical references you quoted have no dates attached to them, so where are you get your numbers?
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https://x.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1704588790730256487?s=20.
You continue to quote scripture that actually says nothing about Watchtower, but relies on heavy interpretation instead, to get your understanding of it. For me it's just too inexact.
And you didn't answer my question about 5 years from now, if Watchtower is still here what will you say.
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https://x.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1704588790730256487?s=20.
Your analogy of hearing thunder and knowing that a storm is close has nothing to do with the end of Watchtower.
You go on to say 'it's not years away.' Fine. You say nobody can know when it will be for sure, but if you know it's not years away, then is it then just months away?
And if we go 5 more years from now, and Watchtower still exists, will you feel a need to rethink your ideas?
