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  Evidence of WTBTS bluff on why they became a NGO

  by Kent in

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  we have on this site the official letter from the watchtower to their different branches about why they became a ngo with the un.

  however, they have earlier given another explanation to one of their members, and that explanation is quite different!.

  here you can read both - and make up your own mind.. .

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  mikepence

  Kent, I love you in a strictly heterosexual kind of way. :-)

  My high school Spanish is weak (Cerveza is about all I remember).

  Translation, anyone?

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  Need Some Help

  by mikepence in

  1. jw
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  i am preparing a lengthy article on the great un library card scandal for xjwnews.com and to be emailed to newspapers, and i could use some help in tracking down references for end notes.

  i want the whole piece to be very carefully documented.. if you are interested in helping, please email me at [email protected], or see the comments section of the "preparing a comprehensive un library card scandal document" story at xjwnews.com.

  you will receive credit for your work in helping prepare the story (e.g.

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  mikepence

  For starters, I could use a link to the thread that started all of this.

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  Need Some Help

  by mikepence in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am preparing a lengthy article on the great un library card scandal for xjwnews.com and to be emailed to newspapers, and i could use some help in tracking down references for end notes.

  i want the whole piece to be very carefully documented.. if you are interested in helping, please email me at [email protected], or see the comments section of the "preparing a comprehensive un library card scandal document" story at xjwnews.com.

  you will receive credit for your work in helping prepare the story (e.g.

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  mikepence

  Hello all! I am preparing a lengthy article on the Great UN Library Card Scandal for xjwnews.com and to be emailed to newspapers, and I could use some help in tracking down references for end notes. I want the whole piece to be very carefully documented.

  If you are interested in helping, please email me at [email protected], or see the comments section of the "Preparing a Comprehensive UN Library Card Scandal Document" story at xjwnews.com. You will receive credit for your work in helping prepare the story (e.g. Research assistance by...).

  Thanks,
  Mike Pence

  XJW User Submitted News & Views at http://xjwnews.com
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  November - Dateline?

  by conflicted in

  1. jw
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  does anyone know when the dateline program discussing jw's and pedophelia is going to air?.

  last i heard was 'in november', i've been looking for it, but havn't seen anything yet.

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  mikepence

  Simon,

  I would suggest setting up a forum on this site for Sexual Abuse in anticipation of a sudden flood of interest in this topic that will surely ensue.

  Mike Pence
  http://xjwnews.com
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  How to Get the US Press to Notice?

  by mikepence in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  any thoughts on how to get the us press to cover the great un library card scandal?.

  does anyone have a very simple un fiasco for dummies site that we could refer press members to?.

  any thoughts on this?

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  mikepence

  I have emailed Stephen Bates with this very question. Hopefully, he will provide some helpful feedback.

  BTW, I was thinking exactly what ashitaka said as I was writing my message that started this thread. Still, if it is a month or two down the road, it may seem even less newsworthy.

  Mike Pence
  http://xjwnews.com
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  How to Get the US Press to Notice?

  by mikepence in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  any thoughts on how to get the us press to cover the great un library card scandal?.

  does anyone have a very simple un fiasco for dummies site that we could refer press members to?.

  any thoughts on this?

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  mikepence

  Any thoughts on how to get the US press to cover the great UN Library Card Scandal?

  Does anyone have a very simple UN Fiasco for Dummies site that we could refer press members to?

  Any thoughts on this? NOW seems to be the time to do it.

  Peace,
  Mike Pence
  http://xjwnews.com
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  Badwillie's Dad's response to UN scandal

  by badwillie in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here's the email from my dad,.

  while i acknowledge your statement that your position would not change even if the un question did not exist, i'd like to share some information i've just acquired on that matter.

  i do not yet have all the relevant detail but i'll pass on what i do have at present.

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  mikepence

  Interesting that he posts no source for his information. Has someone been surfing apostate web sites?

  "I understand that the press officer at the office of public information at London Bethel on 10/22 responded to the Guardian article by refuting, point by point, the "factual errors" contained in that article."

  Again, he provides no reference, no indication which points were "factual errors", just states that it was replied to, as if that mere act constitutes a factual victory.

  "As it happens the society did apply for DPI/NGO status in 1991 for the purpose of getting access to the UN's library."

  Right. Proof?

  "In 1991 there was no requirement to sign off on a statement endorsing UN principles."

  So, the letter from the head of the NGO program is a lie? (It is posted as a scanned image on this site and at http://watchtower.observer.org). Surely, he could call the UN and verify this fact?

  "In effect they were applying for a "library card"."

  Strange ends to justify awfully questionable means.

  "It seems that that requirement came after Kofi Annan's arrival as part of a general tightening up effected by Annan. Evidently, this requirement was slipped in unnoticed."

  Such creatvity! This is an interesting attempt to make his argument sound credible with coercive words like "It seems" and "Evidently". Kofi Annan had nothing to do with this, since the requirements have not changed substantially, and the UN has not "slipped" anything by on their NGO partners. They have a contractual agreement with them, which goes both ways. The UN also has lawyers to answer to in their legal department.

  "If the Society is quilty of anything it is that they went unaware of this new requirement."

  What new requirement? When was it changed? How did it change without the NGO's being notified? Why did the head of the NGO program indicate that it had not changed? Is this a big conspiracgy to make the WTS look bad?! C'mon!

  "Additionally, I have learned that the Society had an observer at the UN sessions for many years. Just as in the case of the press, media or any interested observer it does not necessarily constitute endorsement. I understand that the library access was a more cost effective expedient for accessing UN info."

  This is completely off topic and irrelevant. Rhetorical hand-waving.

  "If and when I get any more detail on this I will pass it on. Otherwise, I will abide by your wish to limit conversation to light non-confrontational issues. Hope you and your family are well."

  As a father, I can't imagine being content with a superficial relationship with my son and his family.

  I think that Badwillie's Dad is very afraid. He seemes to be an intelligent enough man to see the truth of this silly library card excuse.

  Bill, just ask him to call the UN Librarian and ask about what it takes to get access. The numbers, fron Kent's thread, are:

  Head Reference Librarian, Ms. Dana Loytved at 212-963-8822
  Ms. Yengit from the Head Librarian's office at 212-963-7443

  Or, just send him this link, http://www.un.org/Depts/dhl/services.htm#access, without comment.

  Peace and Love,
  Mike
  http://xjwnews.com
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  The UN Library Card Scandal

  by mikepence in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have posted some feedback on the wts latest reply to the un library card scandal, as i call it, sarcastically.. it is at my new site, http://xjwnews.com.

  anyone is welcome to this site, and no, it is not intended to compete with this and similar sites, it is intended as sight focused on *user-contributed* news, links, downloads, comments, etc.. peace and love,.

  mike pence.

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  mikepence

  I have posted some feedback on the WTS latest reply to the UN Library Card Scandal, as I call it, sarcastically.

  It is at my new site, http://xjwnews.com

  Anyone is welcome to this site, and no, it is not intended to compete with this and similar sites, it is intended as sight focused on *user-contributed* news, links, downloads, comments, etc.

  Peace and love,
  Mike Pence
  [email protected]
  http://xjwnews.com
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  Active JW and ex-bethelite responding to UN issue

  by lookin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to respond to the letter sent to the branches from the wtb&ts.. first: the explanation from mike pence is right on the money.

  i am still an active jw who was at bethel for several yrs.

  and in good standing with my local congregation.

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  mikepence

  The analysis that Lookin is referring to can be found at http://xjwnews.com.

  Lookin, feel free to correspond with me privately, if it would be helpful to you.

  Thanks for the kudos,
  Mike Pence
  [email protected]
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  Pictures From Early Days Of JWs

  by Undecided in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks,.

  here are a few more pictures from my history as a jw.

  back when i was a young kid this couple lived in this trailer in my grandparents yard.

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  mikepence

  Ken,

  Thanks for sharing your photos and memories. We all had some great times and some great friends in our lives as a JW, and we need to remember that as well.

  It just makes it hurt all the more.

  Mike