Read this book
The Gentile Times Reconsidered -by Carl Olof Jonsson
He was a JW when he wrote it. It's great!!! I think you can get it online (PDF).
i know it's a complicated topic, and i've spent gobs and gobs of hours studying it and realizing that 586/587 is the most likely date.
so anyway, here's my question:.
how could jerusalem's fall be 587 but still be in line with the scriptures about 70 years of desolation that the wto uses to push 607 so strongly?
Read this book
He was a JW when he wrote it. It's great!!! I think you can get it online (PDF).
how true is that the circuit overseer's arrangement ends in 2011?.
how true is that the circuit overseer's arrangement ends in 2011 ?
well, as i mentioned before in one of my few other posts, i've been lurking here for some time now and finally decided it was time to face the facts and take action.. i was raised a jw (4th generation) and my parents were quite zealous when they got married.
mom was a regular pioneer and dad was a ms. i was the little jw 'rockstar' in my congregation, got baptized at 10, was giving talks and serving as an attendant at the hall and at conventions at such an early age.
auxiliary pioneered whenever i could.
Hi, remember, God knows what there is in the heart, so if He killed all those people for sure they were not or not going to be good people. God and Jesus aren't the WT.
i have read coc, ccmc, isocf and captive of a concept.
i have been fading since april.
i have nothing to hold me back in wbts so i have decided to leave it.
Sorry, I should write "organization". English isn't my first language.
i have read coc, ccmc, isocf and captive of a concept.
i have been fading since april.
i have nothing to hold me back in wbts so i have decided to leave it.
Congratulations, you had the guts to do it, but remember, you left a human organitation and God and Jesus have nothing to do with them. Keep reading the Biblie by yourself.
taken from the watchtower media website today:.
maybe im reading this wrong!!!.
http://www.jw-media.org/fra/20110630.htm.
How much money WT earned in France if they have to pay $82,000,000 in taxes? Sorry for my English, isn't my first language.
Thanks to those that told me about the browser. This is my post from yesterday.
Hello everybody: First I don't speak or write English well that's why I apologise. I have been thinking a lot in John 6:32-58 that reads:
Jua 6:32
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
Jua 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
Jua 6:34
Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
Jua 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Jua 6:36
But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
Jua 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Jua 6:38
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Jua 6:39
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Jua 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jua 6:41
The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
Jua 6:42
And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
Jua 6:43
Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
Jua 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jua 6:45
It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jua 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Jua 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Jua 6:48
I am that bread of life.
Jua 6:49
Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Jua 6:50
This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
Jua 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Jua 6:52
The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
Jua 6:53
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Jua 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jua 6:55
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
Jua 6:56
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Jua 6:57
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
Jua 6:58
This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
(KJV)
I don't have a heavenly hope but I think that whichever is your hope, heavenly or earthly, every christian should be a partaker on the commemoration of Christ's death. What do yo think about this according to John 6? I will appreciate your comments. Thank you very much and again, please forgive my English.