Posts by wolfman85

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

wolfman85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-5DP2DmegU

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Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett

by freddo in

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so this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.

oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.

single.

wolfman85

It's a fact that Rutherford didn't like beards, so eventually, the WT created a not written prohibition on beards. The same WT leaders make JW's believe that a brother with a beard was a spiritually weak person that allowed the Satan's World influences controlled his life. With that programation in mind, JW's men didn't want to be seen as spiritually weak people that allowed the corrupting influences of this system of things affected the congregation. BINGO!! The work was done. It was their "Christians trained conscience" that kept them away from beards.

Eventually, one brother here and another there realized the nonsense of this kind of reasoning and decided to grow a beard. What was WT next move?? The "stumbling block". They spent paper and ink making these brothers feeling guilt because they were making others(the weak ones) stumbling. First, the bearded brothers were the weak ones and know they were the stumbling blocks for the weak ones.

Since then the WT never has tried to correct the wrong point of view of the weak ones on this matter. Why?? Because they(the weak ones) make the perfect excuse that fills WT needs for control.

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Try Not To Vomit When You Read Todays Text

by pale.emperor in

tuesday, february 27. let the elders who preside in a fine way be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching.—1 tim.

5:17.. those related to us in the faith certainly merit honor and respect.

this is especially true of the elders who are taking the lead.

wolfman85

The Bible refers to them as “gifts in men,” and they are a key part of God’s arrangement to care for the needs of his people. (Eph. 4:8)

This is a clear example how the Watchtower and their NWT twist the Scriptures. I have searched almost 40 Spanish Bibles in a computer program and several in English and Eph. 4:8 doesn't say "gifts in men". Each and every one of the Bibles translations I have read says: "gifts to men", a totally different meaning.

http://biblehub.com/ephesians/4-8.htm

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Will paradise be like a 24/7 Disneyland vacation package?

by Sour Grapes in

i was thinking about the jdub paradise this morning and all of the pictures in the watchtower company's literature illustrating the new system of things.. here is a partial list of what you see in the pictures:.

pet pandas, lions, elephants.

people always on a picnic with lots of beautiful fruits and vegetables.

wolfman85

Allow me to say "thanks, but NO THANKS" to Jehovah's Witnesses New World. Can you imagine how much waste(s*it) do everlasting humans being would produce? Now imagine that you are assigned to be a latrine cleaner for several centuries. According to JW's you could be assigned to do a work that you don't like. How happy can you be doing something that you don't want to do, especially for an eternity?

The Watchtower—Study Edition | August 2015

A couple in Paradise talk about their future house

Prepare Now for Life in the New World

6 It will be a pleasure to be under Jehovah’s arrangements in the new world as we work toward beautifying the earth, teaching resurrected ones, and doing Jehovah’s will for mankind. But what if we were directed to perform a particular aspect of the work that did not appeal to us? Would we submit to that direction by doing our best to carry out and even enjoy our assignment? Most of us would answer yes! Consistently, then, are we submitting to theocratic direction now? If we are doing so, we are preparing for everlasting life under Jehovah’s rulership.

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New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018

by pale.emperor in

just seen this announced on reddit:.

ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.

i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.

wolfman85

So no longer "The Magnificent Seven". I was used call them that way.

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Are there any full preterists here?

by quincemyles in

are there any folks here who believe that armageddon, the "second coming of christ.

" the great tribulation and resurrection are past events rather than future?.

wolfman85

Hi. I consider myself a full preterist. I believe in IBV, not CBV. Nice to meet you.

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Since leaving the JW Organization, who is believing?

by Issa in

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i left the jw organization last year during summer.

maybe some of you can relate.

who of you are agnostic or an atheist?

wolfman85

Totally a believer, but I'm not affiliated with any organized religious group. When I read the Bible now I understand it from a preterist point of view.

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Well...It's 2018 and still no ''Armageddon''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

1972 : we started studying with the jehovah's witnesses when my uncle became an elder and put fear into our family that armageddon was close.

1974 : my mom, my brother and i were all baptized after all the convention talks and watchtower magazine articles that 1975 would likely end this system of things.

1999 : being told that the year 2000 was going to mark the 6 thousand years of mans existence and that the 1000 year kingdom in the new paradisewould come in the year 2000.

wolfman85

Hi freddo. The Spanish version is from March 22, 1968. I think that those days the English version was couple month earlier than the Spanish version, but I'm not sure.

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Well...It's 2018 and still no ''Armageddon''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

1972 : we started studying with the jehovah's witnesses when my uncle became an elder and put fear into our family that armageddon was close.

1974 : my mom, my brother and i were all baptized after all the convention talks and watchtower magazine articles that 1975 would likely end this system of things.

1999 : being told that the year 2000 was going to mark the 6 thousand years of mans existence and that the 1000 year kingdom in the new paradisewould come in the year 2000.

wolfman85

I got baptized in 1982 when I was 14. Though I was an 8 years old child in 1975 I remember very well all the expectations for that year. When nothing happened, then the WT came up with the END would come in the year 2000. They didn't say exactly that the end would be in the year 2000 but they said that our work would be completed in the 20th century. After they realized that their words were too compromising, those words were changed in the bound volume. Image result for 1989 Watchtower

I have a print out of the Awake 1968 in Spanish where they said that EVERYTHING would be fulfilled in the 20th century. In other words, they were protecting themselves just in case the 1975 thing wouldn't happen. With this declaration, they were gaining 25 years more. No hay texto alternativo automático disponible.

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Matthew 24:34 not fulfilled in the first century

by Jules Saturn in

i was discussing with an elder the generation teaching and telling him when jesus christ says in matthew 24:34 “truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.” he was referring to the generation from the first century in 33 ad and these events that were to take place took place with the destruction of jerusalem in 70 ad.

now the elder tells me to go back to a few verses to from verses 29-33 which read: .

“immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened,+ and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.+ 30 then the sign of the son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief,+ and they will see the son of man+ coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

wolfman85

Supernatural events were reported by Josephus writings during the period AD 66- AD 70. Some of these events are proof of the fulfillment of Mat.24.in the first century. Here is a copy-paste of some Josephus writings about it. Omens of Destruction

They are:

Star and Comet
Light Around the Altar
Cow Gives Birth to Lamb
The Eastern Gate
Miraculous Phenomenon of Chariots in the Air
Sound of a Great Multitude
Jesus son of Ananias: A Voice from the East

War 6.5.3 288-309

Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them.
Star and Comet
Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year.

Light Around the Altar
Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus, [Nisan, April, about a week before Passover] and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it.Cow Gives Birth to Lamb
At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple.The Eastern Gate
Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again.
This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared that the signal foreshowed the desolation that was coming upon them.Miraculous Phenomenon of Chariots in the Air
Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Iyar, May or June] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities.
Sound of a Great Multitude
Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence."
Jesus son of Ananias: A Voice from the East
But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple [Sukkot, autumn, 62 CE], began on a sudden to cry aloud,
"A voice from the east,
a voice from the west,
a voice from the four winds,
a voice against Jerusalem and the Holy House,
a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides,
and a voice against this whole people!"
This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city.
However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before.
Hereupon the magistrates, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was,
"Woe, woe to Jerusalem!"
And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him.
Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow,
"Woe, woe to Jerusalem!"
Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come.
This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force,
"Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the Holy House!"
And just as he added at the last,
"Woe, woe to myself also!"
there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.