The other thing to note is the Pentgon had 24" concrete walls with rebar, a limestone facade, 2500lb blast windows....That takes a lot of the force. I still dont know about building 7 but the other 3 look like straightforward issues.
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9/11 Security Camera Footage Of Plane Hitting Pentagon
by Bangalore in9/11 security camera footage of plane hitting pentagon.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezmvmoti7e.
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Undeserved Kindness vs Grace - Watchtower flaw in a NUTSHELL
by sabastious inromans 1:7. new international version.
"to all in rome who are loved by god and called to be saints: .
grace and peace to you from god our father and from the lord jesus christ.".
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Diest
I really liked this line of thinking. I was amazed that it only had the original post.
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How many ex-JW's are musicians on here?
by NoRegrets injust wondering how many of us on here are musicians, what we play, and if we had witness bands and/or performed.
i have had quite a few funny moments of being in bands that wanted to be cool, but always had to nerf the edginess of any songs we played and watch the noise!
i played with different elders who loved to rock out, but when they played at a congregation party didn't even want to use overdrive of any kind!
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Diest
trumpet, clarinet and piano
Thats crap all we got was that lame CD, ocasionally a Piano player. Is it more fun to be Dub outside of the US?
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Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY
by free2beme ini went by a protest today.
someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.
next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!
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Diest
Cheech that is very reasonable. Id add in healthcare, but I agree, I dont give them money I give it to shelters.
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Alternate Meanings For Common Words
by Giordano inthe washington post has published the winning submissions to its yearly contest, in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words.. 1. coffee, n. the person upon whom one coughs.. 2. flabbergasted, adj.
appalled by discovering how much weight one has gained.. 3. abdicate, v. to give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.. 4. esplanade, v. to attempt an explanation while drunk.. 5. willy-nilly, adj.
impotent.. 6. negligent, adj.
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Diest
Sick picture mummatron!
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I thought he was in Iraq fighting for our freedom?
by Diest inthis is a sad story about an iraq war vet whom is in critical condition after being hit in the head with a projectile that has yet to be identified.
how could he have fought for our freedom in iraq if he was denied his first amendment rights here in the us?
i dont understand why they are coming down so hard on these protests.
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Diest
This is a sad story about an Iraq war vet whom is in critical condition after being hit in the head with a projectile that has yet to be identified. How could he have fought for our freedom in Iraq if he was denied his first amendment rights here in the US? I dont understand why they are coming down so hard on these protests. It seems like it is getting ugglier out there.
http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-war-vet-injured-during-oakland-protests-210220379.html
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The clash between Oakland police and Occupy Wall Street protesters left a Marine veteran who completed two Iraq tours in critical condition Wednesday after he was struck by a police projectile, a veterans' group said.
Scott Olsen , 24, suffered a fractured skull Tuesday as he marched with other protesters toward City Hall, said Dottie Guy, of the Iraq Veterans Against the War . The demonstrators had been making an attempt to re-establish a presence in the area of a disbanded protesters' camp when they were met by police officers in riot gear.
Several small skirmishes broke out and officers cleared the area by firing tear gas.
It's not known exactly what type of object struck Olsen, currently a systems network administrator in Daly City, or whether he'll need surgery, Guy said.
"It's still too early to tell," Guy said. "We're hoping for the best."
Curt Olsen, a spokesman for Highland Hospital in Oakland, confirmed that the veteran was in critical condition but could not release any more information.
The clash Tuesday came as officials complained about what they described as deteriorating safety, sanitation and health issues at the dismantled camp.
Olsen, who completed his service last year, participated in the protest because he felt corporations and banks have too much influence on the government, Guy said.
A vigil for him is scheduled to be held Wednesday evening near the Oakland City Hall , she said. Multiple attempts to reach Oakland police Wednesday by The Associated Press were unsuccessful, but the department was scheduled to take part in a news conference at 4:30 p.m.
Meanwhile, Oakland demonstrators vowed on Wednesday to return to their protest site just hours after police — who were met as they moved in by pelted rocks, bottles and utensils — cleared hundreds of people from the streets with tear gas and bean bag rounds.
A Twitter feed used by Oakland's Occupy Wall Street movement called on protesters to return to downtown at 6 p.m. for another round, and some demonstrators vowed to return as soon as possible.
Max Alper, 31, a union organizer from Berkeley, gathered with a handful of other protesters Wednesday at the scene of Tuesday night's clash.
"As soon as these barricades are moved, hundreds of people are going to come back. These actions by police were wrong, but they're just going to strengthen the movement," Alper said.
Alper was arrested Tuesday morning when he went to witness the police raid on the Occupy Oakland encampment outside City Hall, he said. He said his arm was injured when baton-swinging police descended on him and other protesters.
Police estimated that there were roughly 1,000 demonstrators at the first clash following the march.
City officials say that two officers were injured. At least five protesters were arrested and several others injured in the evening clashes.
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Letter read to Victorian congregations re WCC
by Mattieu inhad an interesting chat with my ex re the current debate over working with children checks - of which she has one due to her volunteering at our childrens primary school.
i remember when she had to apply that i made the comment elders & mss should be having background checks due to the history of abuse in the borg and covering up (these discussions normally dont go down well as she is well and truly blinded, well meaning, but blinded).. anywho, she told me about the recent letter that was read to all the victorian congregations, she couldnt tell me verbatim what it said, though the gist was that is no real need for elders to get this check, but rather they are complying with what has been asked legally.. now i dont know if what she said next was based on the letter read or the after discussions at the k/hall, but she made the comment the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers... i tried reasoning that another elder who moves in from interstate is certainly a stranger, until you get to know him on a personal level.
didnt matter how i reasoned or what incidents i bought up, the view amongst her and the other mums that she hangs around in the cong is that the elders getting a wcc check is totally unnecessary and that the jws are being picked on.. next week, i am meeting up with a mate who is an elder here in victoria and trying to step down, so will pick his brains and see if he can get a copy.... .
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Diest
THanks for the update.
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The 2 Witness Rule Protects Another JW Pedo Again
by Hairyhegoat inthis is a very disturbing account from a jw girl who posted this on another site.
please don't read if you will be affected by the comments... i'm 23 years of age and i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
thanks to my cousin for introducing me to "apostate" videos online, and a few other major reasons that i will get to soon, i've disassociated myself for a little over a year now.
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Diest
I read these stories and think you need to witnesses for an assult too. I wish there was a witness super hero to go kick the crap out of these men.
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Liberal Christians explain how you view 2 Timothy 3:16, 17
by ShadesofGrey inso the christian (baptist) that i study with says that there are things in the bible that are useful for learning from history, but if god didn't say it (this is what the sovereign lord jehovah has said, or if jesus actually said it, etc.
) then it isn't something that god is saying, so that helps us understand it?.
i know i need to say more in my question, but hopefully i will learn from your responses to the title.. .
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Diest
Use the search feature on the forum....there is more info on here than any christian will give you....it also comes from a broad perspective.....People like Leolena(sp?) Alan F in the past and so on have great posts about non JW topics....
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Where are MTS grads sent?
by A question inin your experience, where and as what are mts graduates sent?.
home country or foriegn asseignment?.
reg pioneer?
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Diest
I think they send them to the Dakotas.....everytime I heard about where the need was greater in the US was in the Dakotas....