LA Big Dawg - Welcome to the 'bright' side :) Thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad you've found some internal peace.
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
i am not sure if i am posting this in the correct forum.
if not i am sure i will be told.. while, i have hit this site from time-to-time in the past, i have never really frequented it.
until recently.
LA Big Dawg - Welcome to the 'bright' side :) Thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad you've found some internal peace.
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
what better way to join the board than jumping in with both feet?
(sorry if it's too long).
my experience is somewhat similar to the ones i've read here.
zam - thanks for sharing that! I'm glad you were able to get out - no matter how you did it. And congrats on your new life. It really sounds like you've got both feet on the ground now. I left the borg in 90-91 too. I only found this great site this year. Make yourself at home :)
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
as an ex presiding overseer and public affairs spokesperson who is now disfellowshipped!!!
i am new to this site and have read with keen interest the many and varied topics that have been posted.
during my 9 years of presiding i encountered certain corrupt c/os for example the friends would treat them like little demy gods, hanging onto their every word, they would, on their visit influence the brothers to part with cash for privledges.
Welcome to the board Martinleyshon! I look forward to reading your future posts. Pull up some cushions and get comfy. :)
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
yesterday, the presiding overseer (elder h) read the letter from the christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses (us branch) regarding their policy on child abuse.
all scriptures were also looked up and read.. elder h is a very prepared brother.
he is a gilead graduate and served as a missionary for about 7 years in kenya before coming home because of illness.
Matrix - that wasn't 'discussed openly'... it was told to you by an elder. Just because he has good grooming re: JWs, doesn't mean he's not being told what to say.
Practice what you preach - test these things to see if they really are true. Don't allow yourself to blindly follow anyone, regardless of who they are.
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
attorney at law.
6-6-02. draffenville congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
attn: george bandarra .
Bill - behind you all the way. You've got a great atty. It's about time someone shone the light on the farce that is the WTS.
Matrix - I use to think like you are doing now, that it would be impossible, that is, until I was followed by elders when I took my EMT course. With no reprimend or reproval, on a rumor only, I was shunned by the congregation except for one sister. I was interrogated without mercy, and lied to. No, not all elders are like this, but unfortunately, the 'legal dept' and JR Brown encourage elders to go against their God-given conscience and bible knowledge. There ARE two sides to the story Matrix. Since you consider yourself in the 'truth', then open your eyes to really look at both sides, for then you've nothing to lose. Practice what you preach - check to see if these things are really so.
hugs Bill, many hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
i've been w/ my husband for 2 years, married for 3 months.
he knows what i went through going throught the df process.
he saw the horrible time i had dealing w/ loosing my family.
buffy hon - check your email.
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
Mulan - I live in Canada. How can I go about helping since I do not have a credit card? Can he accept a money order in USD? I would love to help out, and I sincerely find candles soothing.
hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
maybe it's information burnout or emotional burnout in denial or possibly some sense of avoidance i am going through, sometimes i want to ask for help on issues, but know not the questions i have yet to be asking myself.. trying to leave the final vestiges of something so major in your life as a cultist in ignorance, in this case - jw's, especially when one is brought up in such is similar to saying goodbye to parts of yourself, but how do you know that the incoming transformations through learning experience are 'parts' that you welcome into your new emerging unique identity?.
i think i'm keeping a grasp on the whole picture, but its absurdly complex yet i know the answers are so simple.. perhaps i might just walk away from it all?
(rhetorical), talking to myself.. any other transactional analyst's out there willing to offer a hand?.
Invi - I can totally relate. I think those who are inclined towards insightful and meaningful growth in their life go through phases of differing depths and plateaus in between - a kind of 'ok, what do I do now? What do I need now?' I know these plateaus for me feel like hiking in brand new territory without a compass or map, because it IS new and hence, WILL throw my internal compass off.
I am ten years out of the borg - but it hasn't been ten years that the borg has been out of me. Watching Dateline made me realize just how 'deeply' the JW doctrines had influenced every thought and decision. This past Xmas was the very first time since being out that I enjoyed myself during a holiday. It felt wonderful!
There is a poem by Portia Nelson that I would like to share with you. I have always remembered it as 'the compass and map' when I hit those plateau areas in my phases of internal growth. I hope it is of help to you.
Autobiography in Five Short Chapters (Portia Nelson)
1.
I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I fall in
I am lost...I am helpless
It isn't my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.
2.
I walk down the same street,
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can't believe I am in the same place.
But it isn't my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.
3.
I walk downt he same street
THere is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in...it's a habit.
My eyes are open.
I know where I am.
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.
4.
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.
5.
I walk down another street.
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It sounds like you are on one of those plateaus. It's a new space and place. I like that poem because it so versatile as regards the learning and growth process for any situation.
THere are also times when, as you called it - informational overload - will bring on a plateau because your system needs to file or digest what you've experienced and the things you've learned. Just go with the flow for now. Your brain will definitely let you know when your next session is ready ;) More puzzle pieces will fall from the sky and fit in. Until then, let yourself take a break and go on 'cruise' for awhile. I've found that helpful.
Another phrase I've found that fits is 'Giving birth to yourself'. It's hard work, takes time, and comes in waves. You aren't trying to say good-bye to yourself Invi - you're finding yourself.
hugs,
Mimilly
some of you may remember the post about the un-invitation card which is sent to da/df persons who have previously been invited to a wedding.
the un-invitation card tells them not to turn up!.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27313&site=3.
(((((((Mr. and Mrs. Ozzie)))))))))))
It's hateful that such un-invites even exist. The WTS is telling her to disrespect her own parents.
I'm glad that you are both going anyway. She needs to keep getting a taste of what real love is like. I'm so sorry that you have to be put through this.
hugs and more hugs,
Mimilly
"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent, about things that matter" ~~Martin Luther King
i think it's so sweet...and i hope to cheer everyone up today becos there has been so much pain over the last week!.
http://www.sendthefun.com/somebodycares/.
if it doesn't work: just go to sendthefun site and click on the link 'somebody cares'.
Thank you so muchly for the site! The music is beautiful, as are the thoughts expressed. I bookmarked it.
hugs to you VioletAnai,
Mimilly