The flood of Noah's day was not a global event and the bible does not claim it was.
Searril
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A populations numbers game: After the flood
by PSacramento inon another forum:.
with the flood at about 4,500 years ago, it needs less than 0.5% per year growth.
i think today's rate is about 1.7%.
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YouTube Series on Salvation and what it actually is for JW's, Mormons, SDA
by Ticker inthank you for taking the time to check out my post,.
i wanted to bring a series of youtube videos to anyones attention that has interest in learning about salvation through the lord jesus christ in contrast to what the watchtower, mormons, sda, baha'i and other similar legalistic works based relgions teach.
i think it would be beneficial for ones who may be questioning or want to be better equiped in reaching jw's with the gospel message.
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Searril
Ticker, thanks for the videos.
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What did you learn this year (yb 2013)
by Anony Mous inthe intent of this topic is to centralize some interesting facts from the 2013 yb of jw.
i am analyzing the data in various ways and will publish as i go along:.
p4: "happily, jehovah does not force us to serve him.
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Searril
The cult allowed them to study the Bible with the understanding that the Witnesses would not force them to leave the cult.
So, if you are in a religion that allows you to freely study the bible with people of another religion that's a cult.
But if you're in a religion where you will be excommunicated and shunned for studying the bible with someone of a different religion that's NOT a cult?
Uh, ok.
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The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah- What does the bible REALLY teach?
by irondork inas with most doctrines, the belief that the bible condemns homosexuality is multi-layered and allegedly supported by several scriptures.
when he raised his eyes he got to see the man, the traveler, in the public square of the city.
let me bring them out, please, and you rape them and do to them what is good in your eyes.
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Searril
irondork, as a Christian I want to thank you for the information you've posted. I will be spending some time reading and thinking on it.
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Believers and dinosaurs
by Christ Alone ini was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
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Searril
By your own admission you are a creationist, so I didn't expect you to be open to rational discussion.
Your scathing wit has cut me so deeply I may never recover. That's it. I'm an atheist now!
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Believers and dinosaurs
by Christ Alone ini was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
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Searril
Its safer that way - information that contradicts our treasured beliefs can be bloody irritating.
If you don't believe then you don't believe. Why would I waste my time trying to convince you? The world doesn't revolve around you, ya know.
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Believers and dinosaurs
by Christ Alone ini was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
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Searril
I was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs. I know we have a few young earth creationists here. I wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible.
I am a creationist and I know God exists. I'm just stating that up front to let you know that I won't waste my time arguing with atheists. I won't beg them to not throw their lives away.
The earths is approximately four and a half billion years old.
Dinosaurs lived, and ultimately died out approximately 65 million years ago.
The flood of Noah's day did not kill the dinosaurs as there were no dinosaurs alive at that time to be killed. The flood of Noah's day was also not a global event as many churches teach out of tradition, and the bible does NOT claim that the flood was a global event. If you think it does then you are a victim of translation bias.
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Would doubting Thomas be an atheist today?
by yadda yadda 2 inhow could it be reasonable for jesus to condemn skeptics today when one of his own apostles, who had witnessed jesus pre-death miracles, refused to believe in the resurrection until he had physical proof?.
doesn't the fact that jesus willingly gave thomas the requested proof set a precedent for all other skeptics down through time?
isn't the burden of proof on jesus to provide indisputable evidence that he is now alive given that so much time has passed since his claimed resurrection, and until he does that, it would be immoral for jesus to judge anyone?.
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Searril
John 20
1 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2 So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!”
3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.) 10 Then the disciples went back to where they were staying.
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24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus [ a ] ), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe [ b ] that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
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Notice verse 2....they took the Lord's body and we don't know what they did with him.
Verse 9...they still didn't fully understand the sacrifice and resurrection.
It's important to remember we have the written gospel accounts to reflect on and get a clearer picture. Those living at that time didn't have this advantage of being able to sit back and try to see the whole picture. How many times did Jesus have to repeatedly tell his associates that he would be killed? They had trouble based on their own expectations of what the Messiah was going to be like.
I don't see anything that gives me the idea that Thomas didn't believe Jesus was the Son of God or that God has the power to raise from the dead. Given verse 2 (and that we know others wanted the body of Jesus guarded due to the fear that people would steal it away to make it look like he wasn't dead), I find it more likely that Thomas wanted to make sure it really was Jesus and not someone attempting to impersonate him for self glorification.
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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship
by cedars ina new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.
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cedars.
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Searril
King Solomon:
I'm seriously wondering if Cedars is actually a WT loyalist who is trying to discredit apostates, by trying to make us all appear to fit the WT characterization of angry, bitter, lying "mentally-diseased" apostates who arewilling to lie to others to discredit the Org. That would scare any doubting JWs who lurk to dismiss the information found here, throwing out the baby with Cedar's bathwater.
Another month goes by and when I come back you're still the same douche bag.
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3.5 years vs. a lifetime of going door to door.
by tootired2care indid it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?
i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".
what are your thoughts?.
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Searril
I don't find my life as a Christian to be "cruel and a pointless waste of time and potential", and find very much the opposite to be true. I do preach quite a bit, but I don't waste my time going door-to-door as it is ineffective and not inline with how it was done by the 1st century Christians anyway.
So I guess we will not have any commonality on the subject and it's not worth discussing.