I dont know Anders...those both sound perfectly plausible to me but I am going to guess
1 is false
2 is true
I am only basing the above on a question...why would you be quoting Rutherford?
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Would I lie to you?
by slimboyfat ingiven recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?
in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.
when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.
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Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?
by slimboyfat inrecent developments make me think they might be.
the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.
one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.
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millie210
I agree with all the well thought out points above,
I wanted to add 2 things. As to the apparent money crisis (if there is indeed such) once you start selling assets but dont have your volunteer funded cash flow, you would feel like there is a crisis if your smart.
The Org is used to its cash coming from the ranks below NOT selling of property.
As stated in the OP if that is drying up then I suspect they are very nervous, in spite of some high priced real estate they own. Its a way of life that is no more....book and magazine sales are flat. Their website has not lit the world on fire like they hoped. What next? They dont seem to know.
The other thought I wanted to add is that another change is weakening of respect for elders in general. In history, when you dont have respect for the law you get chaos and anarchy. Perhaps they worry more about that within the ranks than they do indifference?
People fading in chronic indifference or fighting back with lawsuits and websites that tell the real truth. Its going to be one or the other - perhaps both.
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My Bethel Experience Part 6 with new info.
by new boy ini 'm sorry all of this is not in order.
i'm writing as all this comes back to me.. .
my first room assignment was room 33 in the 129 building.
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new boy, you sure do have excellent recall.
I appreciate how you tell your stories with all the social and political mores of the era at that time.
It really makes it a glimpse in to a real life story!
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what things can we say
by pepperheart inwhat sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .
ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.
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millie210
One could say
"notice how thin the magazine is? We know people are busy and this is to give them less to have to read. And as if that were not helpful enough, this publication only comes out half as often now - giving even more time to read less! Yay!
(I wanted to be positive in my presentation - how did I do?)
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The Dubs and marraige
by William Penwell injust have to rant here for a bit.. i was on the phone earlier with my dub sister.
she was telling me how her daughter, my niece, just met a "nice man" (i take it he is a good dub), that things were going good and that if things go as plan they would probably be married this coming summer.
now this is after my niece just got out of a dysfunctional marriage of 20 years and their divorce was just finalized this last november.
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millie210
By their own admission, most disfellowshippings are over immorality. I think the idea is to get married as fast as possible to legalize the sex and prevent some of that.
Ironically, all the obsession and preoccupation with the lures of sexuality cause MORE of a "forbidden fruit" mentality that leads to more sexual activity not less!
There is not one statistic to indicate JWs manage to be any more chaste than any other religion - it may be perhaps less.
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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millie210
I feel for the young guy who does "Jailhouse Rock". He is an entertainer and as we know there is NO slice of the pie for that in JW world.
He must live for these small brief moments where he can legitimately (JW wise) do what he loves and is good at.
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JW Real Estate Owned
by badcompany ini just spoke to my dad who's been an elder since ~'72 and still is.
he told me about a meeting he just had about kh annual maintenance.
whoever led the meeting (not sure who) announced the world leaders in re locations owned:.
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millie210
tacky joke here but doesnt it stand out that these are all places that serve junk food?
ESPECIALLY the JWs~!
And yes, I love some MickyDs as much as the next guy!
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....2016....
by zeb inwith this year all about done i wish you all a healthy and safe 2016.. live long and prosper.
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A very Happy New Year to you one and all!
Nice thread Zeb :heart:
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Predictions for 2016
by LevelThePlayingField inso, it's that time of year again.
here's a few of my predictions.
) no armageddon.
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millie210
More and more use of video feeds at meetings replacing local speakers
A new way to "count" the ones who partake at Memorial
More "campaigns" to try to increase field service hours
Some kind of opportunity used to ensnare young people from teen - 20s.
(may be a "school" or "need great" activity)
Continued quietness on all things blood related - no DFs for blood related incidents.
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CO visit; going to meeting.
by SG098 inhello everyone!just a little background info, i haven't been to a meeting in over a year.
my wife has asked me to go with her tonight to help watch our son since it's the circuit overseers visit...my wife wants to be able to pay attention and get something out of the meeting since our son is 1yr old he can be a handful some times.. a few things of note about the situation:.
- i'm going to the meeting no matter what.
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millie210
- "We've missed you."
Thanks! That is so sweet of you!
- "Are you going to start coming back?"
Aww, that is so nice of you - you have always been such a kind person. - Hows your mom;dad/ brother'dog'cat these days?
- "Wasn't that a wonderful meeting!"
It was!
The last said in the same spirit in which one attends the band recital of a group of 8 year olds. Nothing is really wonderful but you are on THEIR turf and it means something to them. so.....
The above is for the knd well meaning old souls wno are coming from a genuine albeit misguided place.
For the ones who are NOT genuine and you know it - have fun!
- "We've missed you."
Thanks
- "Are you going to start coming back?"
Quesions, questions! Hey I have one for you....do you pack your lunch or ride the bus? Are you still beating your dog or have you quit? Then through your head back and laugh and say " I LOVE question games!
- "Wasn't that a wonderful meeting!"
What was the most wonderful scripture used tonight to you?
Lastly, If there is a real jackass in the group - you can really have fun...
- "We've missed you."
Thats ONE said while holding up one finger
(if they say what do you mean, YOU say "the KM had a list of things NOT to say to inactive ones if they come to a meeting and I am counting how many of them you are going to say.)
- "Are you going to start coming back?"
Thats TWO
- "Wasn't that a wonderful meeting!"
They will be gone by this question :smile: