we saw it with raymond franz.
but do you think we could ever see one of the current gb members or future ones, make the same choice?.
to leave, and expose it..
I think it would take some outside pressure.
Fear of persecution maybe?
I dont think they could be tempted away...
I think they would have to be smoked out by fear of something.
That said, I dont think anything will happen - nobody cares enough about them to persecute them.
while doing some research, i stumbled upon a blog written by a former bethelite.
his name is john bechtel.
the blog is several years old.
This is a great find Sour Grapes. I am reading it now.
The following is a quote from his blog. He is talking about being young, in school and not standing up for the national anthem. He eloquently sums up how a JW feels:
The harassment in the lunchroom stopped from that day forward, however. There was, however, the sense of total alienation from the outside world; we knew we did not belong. And we knew that same sense of alienation was our badge of honor, proof positive of our righteousness.
taken from great crowd.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------.
rebekah called us at 6 am and it was.
very clear that she was traumatized by this event.
Hi Coded Logic,
What you say makes sense.
AND if the best indicator of the past is the future, it is unlikely that they did anything that showed compassion or kindness for their fellowman.
long story, short story.
grew up on a farm, went to bethel, married a sister and left bethel.
found ttatt after my cousin died refusing a blood transfusion.
Dang, you sure know how to condense a story!
Since I tend to ramble, I have to say, I admire that.
You will have to tell us more about you later but in the meantime, a warm welcome to you!
taken from great crowd.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------.
rebekah called us at 6 am and it was.
very clear that she was traumatized by this event.
Coded Logic
I remember a letter being read in the KH a couple of months after 9/11 that said witnesses who were walking out of Manhattan after the towers collapsed across the Brooklyn Bridge were able to take up shelter in Bethel and it was "brotherly love" blah blah blah.
But this thread seems to directly contradict that. Even a letter from a supposed Bethelite seems to indicate they were not letting anyone into the building.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/12113/another-jw-account-wtc
Anyone have anything more solid on this?
I am wondering the same thing...what we were told was that they opened the lobby to passers by and administered basic needs (bottled water and phone).
I am all for putting blame where it legitimately goes but would like to clear this up once and for all.
After all, it has been long enough now for the facts to be told. Surely we have a poster here who was at Bethel then?
i'm not sure how useful this post will be, but i feel compelled to write it.
with many of my older posts, i wrote them with a younger jw version of me in mind.
with this i write it with a younger newly ex jw in mind.. ten years ago i went to my presiding overseer and told him my concerns about wt owning 'rand cam' military stocks, about unfulfilled prophecy and human error in the governing body and the theocratic consequences of such.
Beautifully written and very helpful.
Thank you.
so i just wanted to jot down some thoughts and feelings about my meeting yesterday.... first, the wt, paragraph 16. i couldn't help but laugh to myself at the blatant hypocrisy.
god’s word admonishes us “to live with soundness of mind ... amid this present system of things.” (titus 2:12) having “soundness of mind,” or being sober-minded, should certainly come into play when the explanation of a diagnostic method or therapy seems strange or mysterious.
can the practitioner or the one promoting it explain satisfactorily how it works?
How dare you cough and eat a tic tac?????
Oh my!
Perhaps I am tired but this made me laugh.
hang in there Stephanie,,,the crazy is them, not you! :heart:
i mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.
since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.
kaput.
Well punk,
can I give you a very selfish response?
When I came here I was full of despair. I didnt really know what to do or how to go on.
YOU were so very kind to me. And you didnt know it but you made me laugh. Your tongue in cheek way of poking fun at yourself and at life made me think maybe I could get back to feeling that way someday myself.
So theres your purpose punk! You make us all feel good!
When I think of favorite posters here you are tops.
just happy to be alive....can barely move ☺.. a girl who just got her license , and a new suv....thought it might be cool to pass the person in front of her....at a curve......on a two way road!!!!!😠😠😠.
very mad puppy.
Good morning mad puppy!
Thinking of you and hoping you are feeling better!
Are your bruises making you a very colorful person yet?
the topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.
then i wondered... .
how do women really view circumcision?
Its not how the pen looks, its how well it writes.
