someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
Wasnt there a thread here a while ago about a brother in California who made a granite piece of some sort to be used on the loading bay at the new facility and when he tried to ship it - the Org rejected it?
Dont know the proper terminology for what the piece he made is called but I remember some of the comments suggesting that was ridiculous in a loading/unloading dock because they are usually all concrete.
to all congregations.
re: new songs for memorial.
dear brothers:.
JW_Rogue
Yes, why new songs on a special holiday? Wouldn't you want some traditional songs that everyone knows how to sing already? To me this is way to make families sing these songs at home. Practicing the song is further brainwashing for parents and children. Many will do it because they won't want the congregation to sound terrible singing a song they have never even heard
this is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
EyesOpenHeartBroken Hey Millie
Good taste!
Hey back and same to you!
i finally had the guts to create a profile to be able to post.
i've been lurking for a few months and have read all your experiences and comments dutifully.
you have been a great help in my process of waking up from this cult posing as the one true religion.
Hi and welcome to the forum.
Your name is sheer genius!
this is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For"
by U2
this thread is for when you have to say something to get it out of the system, whether it is happy or sad.
my reason for stating the thread is that on occasion some threads do tend to get a little heated here, and maybe this thread will enable us to reflect on the important fact, we are real people and not just dots on a computer screen.. i would love to start the thread with a bang, but nothing of particular interest has happened, only i do hope the weather improves as the climate i live in has been sadly chilly for the time of year, (if you get the deeper meaning).
the rebel..
Hi Mike,
You are a very special person I have noticed. You have a vibrational energy that resonates with the feelings of others around you.
Those are unique people who do that and you are one.
Wonderful thread concept.
hello everybody,i've been lurking for a while and since i really adore reading the biggest part of the posts, especially this italian ( american) guy about his experiences at bethel in the 70's, i feel a little bit guilty for not participating with my contribute.
i am really so sorry for the people that are suffering because of the wts.my story is a " happy ending " story, i married a jw almost 30 years ago and i am here to tell that we are still very happy.
she is very liberal and our 3 kids are " normal ".
Hi Roberto!
Nice to meet you.
looking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.
could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?
it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).
Its funny how differently it is viewed when you are in - the "secrecy" that is.
In the beginning, you are applauded for questioning established religions and so on and "coming in to the truth". You are treated as a more enlightened thinker.
Once you are "in", you quickly pick up on cues to NOT question. It is tied to loyalty and not being rebeillious, like Satan and the sons of Korah and so on.
Then supporting the secrecy becomes a mark of submission.
I have distinct memories of thinking that people who were always questioning were "weak".
Now that I have a clear head I can see it but when I was in I couldnt.
it was announced recently, that "bro.
z is no long the coordinator(76 years old), bro y(60) is now the new coordinator of the body of elders".. you see, bro.
z has been an elder for 43 years and 35 of them as the cobe/po.
Interesting to hear this James Jack. It gives us an opportunity to look at this from another perspective.
I appreciate your compassion towards him. I am glad to see that you have a human kindness in you that the "Org" is so lacking in.
Who knows? Perhaps your kindness standing in stark contrast to the treatment hes received might make him wonder too.
george martin the studio recording producer who helped and assisted the beatle's music mature into music that garnered even more public appeal has passed on.. he did this by infusing his own classical background experience into the simplistic pop writings of mccartney and lennon.
the result was some the best songs ever composed by this band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsah_egupm.
