Put some Vicks vapor rub on your feet. Put on thick socks and go to bed.
It helps!
Hugs to you Grrreat. Feel better!
the extraordinarily high pollen count has finally done me in.
i started with head congestion and coughing on friday and have steadily felt worse.
i now have an earache and a heavy feeling in my chest.. yes, i do have a doctor's appointment for tomorrow, as i'm sure the advice would be!
Put some Vicks vapor rub on your feet. Put on thick socks and go to bed.
It helps!
Hugs to you Grrreat. Feel better!
urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.
Brokeback Watchtower
Who the hell in their right mind would want to be a C O low wages and all the kinds of bull shit you got to put up with from a bunch of delusional old saps GB who can't manage a business even with slave labor at the heir disposal. What a dead end job for this big time loser poster boy for the borganization!
Good thing he didnt become a District Oversser! LOL
OR a Bethelite!
C.O. is all theyve got left to brag about.
"when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies" jefferson airplane.
until that is you find websites like this!
i want to say a big thank you to all of you for everything i've learned here, as well as jwfacts, jwsurvey, coc, isocf etc.. i'm a born in and i spent more than two decades of my adult life in full time 'service' for the (b)org.
Cruelty of elders - not towards me personally but towards others I respect and admire- is what woke me up too.
I especially like the way you put it when you said its the system that trains the elders not just the elders themselves.
That says it much better than I had been able to frame the thought myself.
Thank you for giving words to that for me and Im sure others.
Glad you are here!
some cong-member asked my wife this question (in the street, stopping her on her bicycle) in a rather police-like fashion.
i wasn't there so i don't know her immediate reaction and response, but she got very upset afterwards and one day later this still occupies her mind.
i believe it's an emotional mix of anger, sadness, shame and guilt.. she doesn't like this intrusion in her privacy from some jws and on the next occasion she will try to make this person respect her boundaries (or just ignore her).
Zana
How can I capitalize on this (trying to wake her up just a little bit more)? And how can I make her feel less shame and guilt? There were several reasons she didn't go to some meetings recently. Either somebody in the family was sick or we had better and more fun things to do as a family (which I encourage of course).
Well a couple thoughts come to mind...
on the shame and guilt part of your question...
tell her Jehovah understands why she hasnt made the meetings. He sees her heart and knows she is a good person.
Tell her the amount of meetings a week is a man nade invention not a God made one. After all, a few years ago we wouldnt dream of skipping a book study mid week and now its ok! Same with a four day assembly - now its 3 and thats ok!
Public talk was an hour - wouldnt dream of leaving half way through...now its a half hour and thats OK!
The times and dates and lengths of meetings will always change. And that is all ok.
The brothers at Bethel farm used to skip meetings when the orchards were ready for picking and that was GB sanctioned.
No one talks much about that but there are many, many reasons why skipping meetings is perfectly ok and has zero to do with Jehovah.
That chinese brother in prison for years was never at a meeting and he kept his own personal faith strong and was held up as a sterling example.
If you sit the reason he didnt make the meetings aside, the point remains, one can be as spiritual as one desires even with years of "missed" meetings.
That is the take away from his experience.
As for the first part of your question, the more time she is away from the constant litany of indoctrination, the more her eyes will open naturally. Its like letting in fresh air, so to speak
i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??
is it me or are you having a hard time commenting on what does this week's bible reading teach me about jehovah & what points from this week's bible study reading can i use in the field ministry ?
i'm having a hard time commenting because what does job show about jehovah....well, # 1 he allowed job's suffering, but he didn't let satan take his life.
# 2 what scripture could one use in the field ministry regarding the book of job...talking to a householder, see if you don't behave, god's gonna get you....or allow satan to get you.
Vent away tor1500,
I enjoyed your post!
i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??
She likes our minimus!
and who can blame her!
with all the info from videos to boe letters, to the flock book ( this is huge when you learn ttatt!
), why can't we find out who the wtbts hired to aid in their rebranding efforts?
we know all about the rc and monica applewhite for jeehoober's sake, so why in the hell can't we find out who is behind the rebranding?
When you look at the Caleb and Sophia images and compare them to the Mormon version of kiddie videos put out by them (LDS) it seems that the same consulting firm was used.
Maybe it would be easier to find out who the Mormons used and back track from there to the JWs?
BluesBrother
Do they really make the video/film with horses, chariots etc.. Do they have the CGI for the distant army? If so they are getting sophisticated ...
Or perhaps they have access to studio "out takes" and footage from commercial sources? I would welcome your thoughts.
Perhaps I will dig out the DVD of "Gladiator" this weekend
Thanks wifi bandit
I wondered the same thing BB
Some of those ancient army shots are very tightly shot. the others are very far away.
They switch back and forth with some skill.
Interesting that they may be buying or pilfering footage.
All of you who know about such things...
how much do you think that second video cost to produce?