millie210

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She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!
by Tempest in a Teacup in
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is this something they've asked them to do?

cart displays in front of their homes?

my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.
millie210

So sorry you have to deal with this Tempest.
I would call an elder in her Hall.
The carts are for public witnessing. They are checked out by publishers (kind of like a library book)
Tell the elder it is against your wishes on your private property.
Tell him it is against zoning rules (if applicable)
Tell him this is a courtesy call and you are calling the Org in one hour (or whatever time limit you decide is fair to you) if the cart is not removed.
Tell him to explain to your mother that this is inappropriate use of the cart.
She is HIS responsibility scripturally.
The cart and where it goes is also his responsibility in the eyes of the ORg.
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Who is your " I am" that your voice should be heard?
by The Rebel in
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2. friends
i was recently thinking before i became " mike" i was an innocent baby, then as the days passed slowly by, i developed a sence of " iam".

as the days moved forward my body, slowly developed a a "sex organ" whilst my mind took on a sence of " emotional" and " intellectual" i am" .

this allowed me to become my current " i am?.
millie210

Have any of you heard of The Four Agreements?
I read about them recently and find them interesting. The second one is proving very helpful in dealing with JWs that I still work with and of course, still in family members.
Be Impeccable With Your Word.
Don't Take Anything Personally.
Don't Make Assumptions.
Always Do Your Best.

Is it common practice to keep using Kingdom Halls after congregations have been dissolved?

by keyser soze in

i ask, because a neighboring congregation of where i used to attend was dissolved, and the people from there were scattered about to whatever congregation was closest.

but it turns out that they still meet at the old kingdom hall a couple times a week, for field service.

apparently this is done for tax purposes.. i suppose from a fiscal standpoint it makes sense, though it seems a little deceitful.

millie210

Is the real estate market down in your area?

It is recovering in some areas and still slow in others. Maybe they think they should sit on the property a while longer?

Prince and addictive drugs…a possible loophole?

by Londo111 in

according to the elder's rulebook, there is this addendum in the chapter on the grounds for judicial committee and the section: "misuse of addictive drugs":.

please note: the use of addictive drugs under medical supervision, such as for pain management, would not necessarily require judicial review.

when questions arise, consult with the branch office.. .

millie210

I agree Grreat Teacher.

People completely deserve their privacy in this as well as many other areas.

The one place I think merits extra thought is when it comes to elders.

If indeed those elders are taking mood altering medications and sitting on judicial hearings where they render decisions that alter peoples lives hugely.

Several airlines had policies that would not allow pilots to use these types of drugs and fly.

There was a backlash and policy was being reviewed but the question remains.

Should a surgeon be allowed to use this type of medication and not let others know?

A sharpshooter on a SWAT team?

A teacher?

A nanny in your home caring for an infant?

I do not presume to have answers - only questions.

I can speak to this however...

a very nice young person I know did something requiring a judicial committee. In the course of that meeting an elder "lost it". He got in the young persons face screaming obscenities with spittle flying out of his mouth.

Guess what excuse was given later for this behavior?

He was "off his meds".

On meds? Off meds? Accountability?

Whose to say?

Why it's a waste of time talking to JW's

by Phizzy in

i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.

the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.

so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.

millie210

While some are able to see for cerebral reasons, it seems like it is the emotional reasons that keep a JW from acting on even the most factual information.

The one sure way to knock a belief system right out of the tree is if they get mistreated by the elders.

When that happens?

THAT is a perfect time to say something that might really take root and gro,

Of course I say that because it is what happened in my case.

Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness

by Simon in

being brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.

people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.

thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?

millie210

Interesting thread!

I was in the "One of" camp.

Lots of emphasis was put on that.

Now it doesnt matter in quite the same way, it only matter grammatically.

Hooray!

Hey, Y'all

by snowbird in

jw
friends

how is everybody doing?.

it's been 8 months since i've been here.. so many newbies!.

lol.. sylvia.

millie210

Hi snowbird,

You are a legend around these parts. Glad you are here and I get a chance to get to know you!

Prince and addictive drugs…a possible loophole?

by Londo111 in

according to the elder's rulebook, there is this addendum in the chapter on the grounds for judicial committee and the section: "misuse of addictive drugs":.

please note: the use of addictive drugs under medical supervision, such as for pain management, would not necessarily require judicial review.

when questions arise, consult with the branch office.. .

millie210

A better approach to pain relief?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/05/19/opioid-painkiller-addiction-death.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=

20160519Z1&et_cid=DM105830&et_rid=1490112028

Who is your " I am" that your voice should be heard?

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i was recently thinking before i became " mike" i was an innocent baby, then as the days passed slowly by, i developed a sence of " iam".

as the days moved forward my body, slowly developed a a "sex organ" whilst my mind took on a sence of " emotional" and " intellectual" i am" .

this allowed me to become my current " i am?.

millie210

The Rebel,

I love the way you are not afraid to address the hard to answer questions.

You are an explorer of the intangible. That takes a lot of courage.

as to your questions...I will have a go at it.

I feel myself changing daily so it will be interesting to come back in a year and see if I still believe any of my own narrative as laid out here in three simple questions!

A ) Who are You?

currently a person unfettered by religious man made rules. Feels naked, feels scary feels exhilarating.

B) Why do you believe as you do?

I have always had a strong inner voice even as a child. When I have followed that voice things work out well. That voice spoke very faintly during my whole adult JW life...questioning. disagreeing. Now that voice is no longer squelched. As to what I believe , I am slowly putting together a belief system that honors what I am a part of (nature, animals, other people) and knows what not to listen to - any human who says "they have it all figured out".

C) Why do you think it important other people believe what you believe?

I dont think it is important to me that people believe what I do. I would much rather be live as a student than try to set myself up as a teacher of others.

Convention coming to a city near YOU...

by Sugar Shane in

...and it's our duty to warn non-jws, or half awake jws about these events, as they start appearing in newspapers throughout the us, and abroad.

it almost comes out as a promotional ad for the jw convention.

the 'current events' editing staff of this paper likely has no idea what their promoting.

millie210

And so it begins,,,

is this the first one of the year?

I couldnt help but notice it costs $10 to park. I wonder who gets that money?

Thanks for posting this Sugar Shane!