anyone else notice that in the video where the sister was reinstated after many years of freedom, that the congregation applauded at the announcement of her reinstatement?
it been a few years since i was an elder, but when i was, we were instructed by the co that it was "not appropriate" to applaud when the announcement of a reinstatement is made from the platform.
his words, "because the one being reinstated is only doing what they should be doing!".
I swear, a JW should invent an app for all the flip flops over tiny little rules like this.
Then a good Jw would know what they are allowed to do and not do this month.
And did they really write an article giving permission for spontaneous clapping?
Sadly and surreally, yes they did.
here's a link to a brief but good, four-minute piece on jehovah's witnesses.
wdiv in detroit filmed it.
there's a place for comments so please add helpful info.
Saving to watch the link....
Thanks Emma!
my initial pangs of unease and doubt led me to research some things.
well, a lot of things really.
i've never felt comfortable using the bible to try to calculate dates (1914).
This is the hardest part. It wont get any worse as far as feelings than it is for you right now.
Its like learning the most valuable things are lies. Lots of underpinnings in your psyche falling away.
There is life after this stage for sure. We are all in various ways, proof of that.
How you proceed and how you frame this out is up to you, It is within your control.
I can say that if you are still grieving give yourself time.
A slow deliberate fade is working for me as far as not losing people I value in the Org.
A couple are even making their own way out.
My plan is to get as many family members out as I can and each Bible study that got baptized because of me is going to have a hand of help extended by me. If they want to accept it, I will help them.
hugs Pale.
"it's like north korea..." is a phrase i use often to describe this life to outsiders.
think of the situation in north korea, sound similar?
in north korea:.
Can you wear what you want in N. Korea? Grow a beard?
Perhaps N. Korea is more lenient...
I noticed that they clapped too when the reinstatement was read.
Remember when that was a no no? And now its ok?
https://www.bisnow.com/new-york/news/commercial-real-estate/what-makes-the-jehovahs-witnesses-portfolio-special-and-what-the-latest-property-to-hit-the-market-could-become-60632 .
“i’ve never seen any properties kept in better shape,” tim says.
“anyone who buys them will be happy that they did and they won’t need to spend a dime on upgrades to infrastructure.” tim, who tells us he attended a breakfast at the white house about a decade ago, goes as far as to say the buildings are better maintained than the presidential residence..
according to the elder's rulebook, there is this addendum in the chapter on the grounds for judicial committee and the section: "misuse of addictive drugs":.
please note: the use of addictive drugs under medical supervision, such as for pain management, would not necessarily require judicial review.
when questions arise, consult with the branch office.. .
Hi, nonjwspouse!
I agree!
Yes that rule for pilots has changed for the reasons you mentioned above., it was ruled archaic and now pilots can take what they need to have.
I only have one area where I feel strongly on this and that is when an elder goes in to a back room and sits in judgement on a young person (or any person).
They dont need their lives altered in any way by someone who is struggling in their own life, or whose mental clarity is impaired by a medications side effects or the impairment of needing a medication that they are not taking.
This dilemma, cuts both ways.
Just one more way we know for sure that there is no "holy spirit" attending these meetings.
the title above is a question asked by my wife seemingly hundreds of times in 1993, the year our only child was disfellowshipped.
the entire story exceeds the reasonable limits of this forum and i have to suppress the urge to write it.
instead, i will give little snippets, what a certain elder said at this or that point, how jehovah's organization treated us, how we handled our gradual awakening to, yes, "the truth about the truth.
There is nothing that can rip your heart out faster than helplessly watching a young person man handled by a judicial committee.
When that young person is "your" young person, it becomes the biggest nightmare a parent can experience.
There are most definitely some of us here that will see ourselves in your words and your experience I am sure.
Your wifes question was very heartfelt and poignant to read.
.... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.
i wonder why that is....
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Orphan Crow we need your research superpowers
Great idea!
.... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.
i wonder why that is....
We had a thread a while back discussing how they might have (probably did in fact) used an outside consulting company.
It was especially mind boggling to see the videos the Mormons have produced for children as compared to the "Caleb and Sophia" videos the Org is using.
Guess which ones came first? Yes, the Mormons did it first.
I would love to know the name of the media consulting firm that was used!
