Posts by millie210

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Children and Blood Transfusions

by Listener in

a hospital in qld.

australia sought orders to allow a blood transfusion on a minor if necessary.

this occurred on the 12th june 2015.the child was 7 years old and required a liver transplant within the next two or three years otherwise death was seen as inevitable.

millie210

As usual when the Org is trying to figure out a new position on where to stand, they are saying both things.

For private in sessions like assemblies they say the above.

Behind closed doors, branch officials met with authorities and came up with a plea deal so to speak on at least the children/blood/religion angle.

This of course they do NOT mention at assemblies - you have to read it in the papers.

I know personally of one case (U.S.) where this was quietly set up for the parents by the liaison committee.

The loophole document is called a "Letter of Understanding"

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/20/without-fanfare-jehovahs-witnesses-quietly-soften-position-on-blood-transfusions

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How does an elder become an elder ?

by Drwho in

i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .

please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?

simon.

millie210

Drwho
Very interesting , thanks all ..
How is en elder qualified to give advice , to maybe someone who is fading, not attending meetings ?

He may not be. It is luck of the draw. Elders are poorly trained for their job and there is little standardization of care, as well as little consequence from above no matter what they say or do to the lowly ones in their care.

It is a poorly managed system that escapes normal societal controls such as training and licensure etc because it is a "religion".

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Proverbs 4:18 "light gets brighter"

by stuckinarut2 in

we are all familiar with the classic use by the society of proverbs 4:18 about "light getting brighter".

they say it applies to revealed truth, and doctrinal changes etc.. have you ever just read that chapter (and even the surrounding chapters) in full??.

it has nothing to do with doctrinal changes or teachings.. it has to do with acquiring wisdom and life skills in order to live a successful life.

millie210

Yes, like was mentioned above, the scripture isnt saying "new light" as JWs are so fond of saying.

As light gets brighter it merely fleshes out details of what was already there. It doesnt change what was there completely or take off in another direction entirely.

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So, how did the 'beard article' go over yesterday at your congregation?

by neat blue dog in

at mine the conductor was somewhat awkward and minimal and there were nervous chuckles from the audience.

two people, including an elder, gave reasonable comments that it's okay as long as it's not extreme styles, etc.

but then another one of the elders commented that nothing has changed and they still aren't proper locally.

millie210

dbq407
the conductor said its clear they aren't accepted around here because if they were then brothers would be wearing them.

Beautiful example of circular reasoning!

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Thanksgiving??

by HereIgo in

with thanksgiving around the corner, i thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other jw's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving.

it seems to me that most jw's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday.

growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner".

millie210

nonjwspouse.
I dearly love my MIL. I just wish she wasn't so brainwashed. She has her own way of working around things, but it is a crap shoot as to what she will follow and what she will not.

Your mother in law sounds like a familiar species to me!

This is true of so many JWs I think. It is how they survive the religion and still have some semblance of a real life.

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Thanksgiving??

by HereIgo in

with thanksgiving around the corner, i thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other jw's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving.

it seems to me that most jw's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday.

growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner".

millie210

Ah the memories!

As a kid (born in) my mom worked at university and would always invite the ones who had nowhere to go to come to our home and would diligently stress to them that as JWs we did NOT celebrate Thanksgiving.

Mom was a very social person so there would also be a smattering of folks from Bethel that she had friendships with who would be in our area ( a big vacation spot) and they of course would be staying in our home and be there for dinner also.

So there was our table, a big turkey with dressing and mashed potatoes and cranberries. A young biology major seated next to an older sister from Bethel (in her late 80s) local friends, my moms various Bible studies, who were always many and varied in their culture and situation in life. One was a retired jeweler from Austria, another was a woman who had a 3rd grade education and 11 children who lived all over the U.S. except the youngest who would attend with him mother - he was blind and a music prodigy and would play music guitar, piano, horn, it was wonderful to listen to him.

As strange as this must all sound, it all proceeded quite well believe it or not.

It was a heightened version of most weekend dinners my mom enjoyed giving.

My siblings and I did not view this as strange or faith compromising. Of course we knew not to use the word "Thanksgiving".

That would be wrong. Of course.

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Can Trump appoint his sons to his Cabinet?

by blondie in

jw
friends

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-cabinet_us_5824c2b2e4b05cf6a6435663.

millie210

It looks to me like the Chief of Staff is not a Cabinet position although it is very "Cabinet like" in appearance and description.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet

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Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i am no fan of donald trump at all.

i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

millie210

Fruitcakes!

Not you guys...I am talking about the ones made with cake batter and candied fruit. Is that a Brit thing?

I just got back from an open air market and they are selling them.

I know a lady who used to make one and they soak it in peach brandy for weeks before serving. You could get a buzz from that cake...

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Welcome President Pence!

by Wasanelder Once in

can we expect legal problems for trump to cripple his authority?

remember that trump u. is still pending as well as multiple accusations of groping.

there is that one case of the woman claiming he raped her at 13. wow america, you really know how to pick'em.

millie210

I do have to say that Pence seems more in control of himself than Cain if we are only talking vice presidents here, not Hillary or Trump.

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My Thanksgiving Tradition As One of Jehovah's Witnesses

by TMS in

the jw prohibition of celebrating holidays includes the american celebration of thanksgiving, a sort of innocuous harvest festival, where thanks is given for the year's blessings.

a typical family eats a large meal together, including turkey and all the trimmings.

in recent decades, nfl football, always involving the dallas cowboys and detroit lions, has become part of the routine, as well as drinking beer.. every year or so, the "awake!

millie210

Raises hand. Count me in on the celebrating while claiming not to be "really" celebrating.