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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  ok, thanks oppostate and Brokeback W for explaining.

  I think the point above is extremely likely and lawsuits will start to be filed (and won) over the DF policy.

  I say that because I think the climate is finally ripe for public sympathy to side with the individual that has been wronged over the religion and its "rights".

  Religion doesnt have much respect with people today and it is becoming less each day.

  People are getting very aware of the rights of the individual though.

  All bad trends for the Org.
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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  So did Stewart mean the term captive in the business sense or in the sense that they practice shunning?
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  Re: “Became So Beloved” Video

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  amid all the talking about the rc, the wt is releasing a new video:.

  to all bodies of elders.

  re: became so beloved video and event media document type.

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  But wait! Wifi cant leak it until the dome administrator says so! Oh wait.....that was domain administrator (I like mine better) Here we go again with more of the old secretive handshake stuff...MSs can see this but not this...elders can see all.....blah blah blah.

  Seriously, dont they know the BRANCH book has been leaked all over the net and the Elders manual is old ha?

  Reading the Societys letters are about the best way I know for a person to experience the emotions of hilarity and nausea simultaneously, assuming one is looking for that experience.

  All I get from that letter (after the laughing and gagging) is that they must be having a problem with people not being WOWED by the C.O.s these days.
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  SO IM JUST WONDERIN.....

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as the story of "annointed" ones goes.....when their spouse is left behind on earth, are they free to remarry?

  that would kinda suck, being in heaven...watching the wifey , or hubby gettin doinked by someone new.

  just sayin.....shewt...i got way too much time on my hands..

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  I have wondered that before too...

  I guess they are too mentally elevated up there to concern themselves with that?

  Although....didnt angels from "up there" get totally carried away by viewing women down here on earth?

  So there is that.

  Hmmm
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  The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

  the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

  that is all..

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  DesirousOfChangean hour agoWhere is Kenya on the map anyway?
  It's a small town in a Southeastern State.
  Doc

  OMG I almost fell off my chair and dropped my coffee laughing.

  Thanks for that Doc!
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  How big a deal is the royal commission..? It seems to be not much...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my understanding (very limited and maybe flawed) is that this commission has no teeth.

  if thats true why would the org care?

  send a few lawyers, go through the motions but in the end.... its a dog parking on a porch.

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  Thanks Joe Grundy appreciate the clear explanation!

  barry2 hours agoEven now survivors of sexual molestation that have had claims payed in the past are being assessed if they require further payments because of this royal commission.

  Also excellent point. In some ways hitting them financially probably impacts them more than hitting them with legal rulings because of their persecution complex.
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  Dude, JW's are getting crushed by the committie!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been catching up on the videos and news articles.

  the elders, lawyers, branch members, hired reports are all getting slammed!

  that dude has a response and point to bring up on everything!

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  Their answers aren't even good! They're that of a child. Did they not go over ahead of time to come up with good answers?

  You know, I really dont think they did.

  I think the "Ivory Tower" phenomenon seems to be in full effect. Apparently the rank and file need to rehearse how to pitch JW.ORg at every Service Meeting but the leadership are very sure of their righteousness and perhaps even believed that biblical line about "what to say will be given to you" by the Holy Spirit.

  Meanwhile back in the trenches...how often were we told the Holy Spirit cant recall to your mind what wasnt put in your mind by YOU?
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  Theocratic Warfare

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no doubt we noticed the royal commission ask vin toole (and i think terry o'brien) about the expression "theocratic warfare"?.

  they were asked to explain it and what is meant to witnesses.. vin outrightly lied when he said he "had never heard of that expression!".

  i remember him using that term in conversations and talks many times!!

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  The whole idea of dragging a God in to any earthly "warfare" is so presumptive no matter who it is.

  The fact that JWs feel a situation is so dire as to require that kind of action when in fact they have created the actual situation themselves is beyond head shakingly stupid.

  Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted

  - Ralph Waldo Emerson

  
  
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  Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.

  we have been following the rc closely.

  it is fascinating!

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  Jaidubdub2 hours agoBtw - I'm not attending meetings, have been inactive for several years but still socialise with a small selected group of jw's occasionally.

  I have worked very hard to position myself in the same spot. So far so good. Really nice to meet you and thanks for sharing your "on site" impressions for someone like me far away in the States.
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  Jwfacts tv appearance

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  shout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.

  excellent job !

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  That is the best independent interview I have seen. I have been looking and looking since the RC began their work for something to "capsulize" things that I could use to show a very skeptical person who really does want to leave the Org. You have provided just what I need Paul.

  Thank you!