Posts by millie210

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Construction Halts & other cutbacks - Here's what I think happened

by Listener in

to get to the point straight away i think the crane accident that occurred at warwick was a significant catalyst that has caused the org.

to change its plans suddenly.. list of assumptions, not all of them are validated.

- there was a serious crane accident that occurred at warwick approx.

millie210

Very well written and logically based original post Listener, thank you for taking the time to write that out.

Two things I am still puzzled over though,

1) The letter read at the special elders meeting last Jan. (2014) detailing a ramped up building work.

What could have happened since that point? If not "something happened", then something they became aware since that letter that happened earlier?

2) The look, attitude, demeanor of Anthony Morris on that morning worship video a month ago.

He looked and acted devastated. He was incapable of hiding it. What had he just become aware of?

So it may very well be what you stated. But how, with all the accountants and quarterly reports etc did they believe they were poised to ramp up hugely?

How could they have thought that? Because the letter (in order to be read in January) had to have been composed about this time last year.

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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

by The Searcher in

according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

millie210

Well of the two words they have in their identity 1) Jehovah and 2) Witness, it seems the word witness would be easy to morph in to the word worshiper.

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How was it when you were a JW as a kid?

by nevaagain in

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whats worse than being an adult jw?

when i was a kid i always had a bad concience all the time.

i believed i would not survive armageddon for the fact that i didn't like going to service and i didnt like going to the meetings.

millie210

As far as the meetings they were long and boring and the information was very dry. I dont see that as a detriment to myself though.

I see it as a throw back to what everyone was doing in previous centuries. People trudged to church, sat on hard wooden pews and listened to a dried up stick of a minister threaten them with the flames of hell.

If you come from a European or American background then that is exactly what your forefathers and mothers did as children.

It just seemed more antiquated to us compared to other chidlren of our time.

As for the field service that was cruel and unusual punishment!

Especially considering the fact that as it turns out, it was all for a really crappy religion that no one who really looks in to it could be proud of.

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Just read this on JW Talk......

by WHATSGOINGON in

just saw this on the public area of jwtalk (i am not a member).

here is the link.. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/23523-privvy-news/.

such a shame - i do feel for these ones - i just don't know what to say.... wgo.

millie210

I know I keep saying this but LAST January - not even a year ago- they had the special meeting for elders to tell them about the ramped up building work. The letter that was read said this was going to be the greatest building work the world had ever seen!

So now that is all on hold and they are focusing on the preaching work and everyone is saying how great that is...does that mean they thought the building plans were NOT great last January?

Is it all just "great" come what may?

Just so ridiculous.

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Far fewer references to lesbians

by Doug Mason in

i notice that while a search of the wt library reveals many references to homosexuals, there are few references to lesbians.. does the wts include women when it uses the term homosexual?.

when discussing masturbation, does it mention both sexes?.

i am asking out of pure ignorance, seeking clarification.. my only comment is that religion of every shade has difficulty with the subject of sexual activity, as if it were something that is not part of nature.. doug.

millie210

Yes Heaven - who knows what they would write about that if it were the case!

OMG I am still laughing at that quote!

Not to mention the sentence composition is appalling.

What exactly is a sex disturbance as caused by an ovum?

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Far fewer references to lesbians

by Doug Mason in

i notice that while a search of the wt library reveals many references to homosexuals, there are few references to lesbians.. does the wts include women when it uses the term homosexual?.

when discussing masturbation, does it mention both sexes?.

i am asking out of pure ignorance, seeking clarification.. my only comment is that religion of every shade has difficulty with the subject of sexual activity, as if it were something that is not part of nature.. doug.

millie210

St George of England
*** w61 12/15 p. 768 Questions From Readers ***
Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times.

No way!

Did they really say "ovum at large"?

They make it sound like a criminal on the lam. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

by Tornintwo in

today's watchtower:.

obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

millie210

It looks like they really hustled to get that part in print about those leaving Bethel need to have a good attitude.

I guess that is an attempt to shut down the talk that is already happening....

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Great Evening....

by Lee Elder in

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...with dick and helen kelly.

got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.

wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.

millie210

Dunedain
Pardon my ignorance, and i mean no disrespect, but can anyone, please, fill me in as to who these persons are, and what their work is, thanks so much.

If you get a chance, do yourself a favor and read Barbara Andersons life story,

She is amazing and her life reflects that.

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UPDATE on moving in with 4 guys

by Terry in

living with 4 other guys.

"good morning, richard!

richard is almost never in the house.

millie210

Great story and well told - I really enjoyed that.

Nice picture.

Look like the two most interesting men in the coffee shop for sure!

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No 'Tight Pants' policy is now official - classed as 'disturbing'

by wizzstick in

in short:- tight pants is no longer just a am3 hang up (or is that a hang up on the well hung?

)- brothers who have effeminate body language are flagged up- as are sisters with 'masculine' hair styles or dress- such dress is 'disturbing to the congregation'- the above must heed the (repeated) counsel from the elders...or they get stripped of the right to share on the ministry- however...this will not be revealed (announced) to the congregation.

wow.

millie210

What a GREAT and sizzling thread.

I am enjoying the intellectual back and forth of everyones points.

My point?

I am thrilled about this. Truly.

It has been rather hard trying to fade with my rabidly JW family alternating between tears/guilt and anger/shame in their attempts to "reach my heart".

When I first read this rumor almost a year ago, I mentioned it to still in family since it was a point I found on JWTalk .I thought that was a place even my family would not have a problems with since they are just like the folks over on that website.

Imagine my surprise when the retort was "those crazy rumors are what you get when you go to online sites period. You know the only site you can trust is JWs official site. "

The person saying this is the official leader of my extended family...elder, missionary etc.

I asked him "what if its true, this rumor?"

"It wont be" he said assuredly, "The Society would never be that imbalanced and controlling"

So I would like to tip my hat to the unbalanced folks that run the "org".

Thank you for making it SO much easier to look at my JW brother and say "now what?"