I noticed that they clapped too when the reinstatement was read.
Remember when that was a no no? And now its ok?
millie210
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Article: Witnesses Portfolio ‘Better Maintained Than The White House.’
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.bisnow.com/new-york/news/commercial-real-estate/what-makes-the-jehovahs-witnesses-portfolio-special-and-what-the-latest-property-to-hit-the-market-could-become-60632 .
“i’ve never seen any properties kept in better shape,” tim says.
“anyone who buys them will be happy that they did and they won’t need to spend a dime on upgrades to infrastructure.” tim, who tells us he attended a breakfast at the white house about a decade ago, goes as far as to say the buildings are better maintained than the presidential residence..
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Prince and addictive drugs…a possible loophole?
by Londo111 inaccording to the elder's rulebook, there is this addendum in the chapter on the grounds for judicial committee and the section: "misuse of addictive drugs":.
please note: the use of addictive drugs under medical supervision, such as for pain management, would not necessarily require judicial review.
when questions arise, consult with the branch office.. .
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millie210
Hi, nonjwspouse!
I agree!
Yes that rule for pilots has changed for the reasons you mentioned above., it was ruled archaic and now pilots can take what they need to have.
I only have one area where I feel strongly on this and that is when an elder goes in to a back room and sits in judgement on a young person (or any person).
They dont need their lives altered in any way by someone who is struggling in their own life, or whose mental clarity is impaired by a medications side effects or the impairment of needing a medication that they are not taking.
This dilemma, cuts both ways.
Just one more way we know for sure that there is no "holy spirit" attending these meetings.
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"Where Is Jehovah In All of This?" My Wife, July of '93
by TMS inthe title above is a question asked by my wife seemingly hundreds of times in 1993, the year our only child was disfellowshipped.
the entire story exceeds the reasonable limits of this forum and i have to suppress the urge to write it.
instead, i will give little snippets, what a certain elder said at this or that point, how jehovah's organization treated us, how we handled our gradual awakening to, yes, "the truth about the truth.
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millie210
There is nothing that can rip your heart out faster than helplessly watching a young person man handled by a judicial committee.
When that young person is "your" young person, it becomes the biggest nightmare a parent can experience.
There are most definitely some of us here that will see ourselves in your words and your experience I am sure.
Your wifes question was very heartfelt and poignant to read.
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JW.org videos....look like....
by Anders Andersen in.... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.
i wonder why that is....
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millie210
sparrowdown
Orphan Crow we need your research superpowersGreat idea!
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JW.org videos....look like....
by Anders Andersen in.... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.
i wonder why that is....
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millie210
We had a thread a while back discussing how they might have (probably did in fact) used an outside consulting company.
It was especially mind boggling to see the videos the Mormons have produced for children as compared to the "Caleb and Sophia" videos the Org is using.
Guess which ones came first? Yes, the Mormons did it first.
I would love to know the name of the media consulting firm that was used!
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shunning
by zeb inin the awake!
of 8th jan 1947 it states that shunning is a pagan practice and is "all together foreign to bible teaching".. hope this helps some..
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millie210
Thank you Zeb!
This is within the lifetime of many who were born in or converted. This is not from the 1800s.
Not that it should matter but I find it sometimes eye opening to say to still in people, you do realize this was written the year after your dad was born?
Or the year after your parents were baptized..
I am extremely tired of the way the Org lets old teachings die out rather than defend them or apologize for them.
So cowardly.
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Keeping your sanity while stuck as an active JW
by oldskool ini pass along this advice as a new topic, to get it past one off comments that may not get as much attention.. i exited the jehovah's witnesses about a decade ago.
like many, my personal situation felt to restrained to act on my impulse and get out quickly.
i took about a year and a half to two years to leave via da.. i empathize with anybody leaving the watchtower who finds it difficult to falsify dedication, interest, and belief in both their personal and public life.
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Ding
What did you do about going out in service when you knew you didn't believe it anymore?I dont know if this would help any for you but pack your car as full as you can with publishers so that no one gets much of a turn.
Check out your own territory and chose one where you know most people are at work everyday.
If you do have to talk to someone - pick a light easy scripture of encouragement and just say:
My purpose in calling today was to share an encouraging thought from the Bible - read the scripture and tell them to have a nice day and leave......
if the JW accompanying you questions what you did at the door, just say that you are trying something new that the C.O recommended......which was to use the Bible more at the door.
(C.O.s are always saying this....they also say to use discretion about leaving literature so you can use that line also if you wish)
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Keeping your sanity while stuck as an active JW
by oldskool ini pass along this advice as a new topic, to get it past one off comments that may not get as much attention.. i exited the jehovah's witnesses about a decade ago.
like many, my personal situation felt to restrained to act on my impulse and get out quickly.
i took about a year and a half to two years to leave via da.. i empathize with anybody leaving the watchtower who finds it difficult to falsify dedication, interest, and belief in both their personal and public life.
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millie210
This is AWESOME oldskool!
What does the Org say about that....they say you only have to tell the truth to those who are entitiled to it,
Well! By virtue of everything they do and say they are not entitled to My truth, That is how I get around any moral dilemma with them.
I also appreciate your point about not reading and getting worked up. Most JWs are tired and stuck and not up for the fight...better for everyone to use a light touch .
Thanks for taking the time to write this all out, you are going to help some who are struggling.
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Embracing, Not Running From, My Repressive JW Heritage, Finding A Few Things Worth Salvaging
by TMS inyes, we could have been born in an alley in calcutta or with the physical deformities associated with thalidomide.
instead, we were born into or introduced to a repressive, american, religious cult, that shielded us from the warmongering game of chess, the militaristic boy scouts, fornication-inducing sock hops, the twist, as well as the hokey pokey.
we heeded the warnings, avoiding the greedy self-worship associated with masturbation, decadent rock 'n roll and anything preceded by the word "extra-curricular.".
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millie210
I loved your title and first post TMS.
One trap I think it is easy to fall in to is "if not for this, than I could have/would have______ " (fill in blank with an idealized situation).
The fact is, the world is full of people who never reach their potential, get that degree, make their first million, travel the world etc.
One of the things I have said to myself is who is to say that I would have done XYZ if only I was not a withess?
I have many worldly family members who are living the average life. Religion didnt stunt them, they just are where they are.
It really helps me not to feel bitter about the wasted years as a JW.
I also learned a solid skill set as to how to talk to anyone about anything and I know more about ancient Jewish history than I suspect I will ever need! LOL
So I embrace where I came from and what I can carry forward now that I have left the JWs behind (which is my end goal....leave them far and permanently behind) I have met many wonderful, sincere people and carry those memories with me also.
I remember reading a fascinating paper on the process of intuition that talked about how people who had grown up on the streets of Calcutta tested amazingly high in intuitive skills. The conclusion was that living in a state of adversity had helped them hone intuitive skills as a matter of successful survival.
Not everyones situation is that dire but it illustrates the fact that good (or shall we say useful?) can come from bad.
I am in a long slow fade in part because I have a business that employs some JWs and neither they nor I want to damage what we see as a good thing we have going employer/employee wise.
That gives me even more reason to adopt a philosophical mindset that embodies grace and gentle, humorous acceptance of all that has gone before.
I am not quite there but I will be, because that is my goal.