LOL, Tylinbrando! It would be a dream come true if that were the case! He's still very much under the spell of 'JW's have the Truth' and 'where else is there to go?' !
sickandtired
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Does anyone have official confirmation of new GB member?
by Open mind inabout a month ago on this jwn thread,.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/235284/1/new-gb-member-mark-sanderson.
the news of a new gb member, douglas mark sanderson was announced.
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Does anyone have official confirmation of new GB member?
by Open mind inabout a month ago on this jwn thread,.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/235284/1/new-gb-member-mark-sanderson.
the news of a new gb member, douglas mark sanderson was announced.
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Interestingly, I found a copy of a picture of the GB in my husband's folder (he's an elder) with the newbie GB member on it. My husband hasn't told me about it yet. I don't know whether it's because he doesn't think it's common knowledge yet, because they haven't announced it at the hall OR he doesn't want to tell me yet because he's afraid of what I'd say about Sanderson's young age. Or maybe it isn't important to him.
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The New Diary of Winston Smith
by WinstonSmith inwe had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
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Winston, your story is awesome and I am so glad you've got your wife with you on your journey! I am very much alone in my family in my realization that JWs don't have "the Truth". I've really appreciated you writing your story. Please keep it up! :)
I noticed too the reference to the scripture in this week's WT study article about their being one hope. I wanted to mention it to my husband but he's ultra sensitive to any apostate leanings I have and will overreact lately to the smallest things. I have to take it a lot more slowly nowadays. It's amazing the stuff you notice when you are no longer in a Watchtower-induced fog!
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What's The Worst Thing About Being A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus infor me, i think it's that the witnesses teach they are god's spokesman.
they represent his "faithful & discreet slave"....and that they alone are expounders of the only truth and that if you disagree with anything they teach, you are considered worse than vomit.. it's unbelievable because these people are wrong so many times, it cannot be excused!.
as a witness, you must accept every viewpoint and if you (and your family) do not accept it all, hook, line and sinker, you are "apostates"!!!.
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I hate the putting off of enjoying things now because, "Hey, you'll have all the time in the world in paradise!" I have not one hobby and neither does my husband. You're not encouraged to pursue any talents you might have because it's all vanity and it might 'draw you away from Jehovah'. I would even feel guilt for reading a novel because it wasn't the Bible or one of the Society's publications.
Also, as a Witness, you never really feel that close to your family who are not Witnesses. My mom distanced herself from her unbelieving family after she came in the "truth." I remember as a kid having a family reunion with my mom's side of the family. I loved every minute of it and sobbed when they boarded the plane to go home. I didn't understand at the time my reaction to that. I wasn't an emotional kid. I've been thinking about it lately and realized that I'd never had the opportunity to get to know them before and I hated seeing it come to an end. Also, part of me feared that I'd never see them again after that because they'd be destroyed in Armageddon. It makes me sad just thinking about it.
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They STILL might be DFing me soon for apostasy...
by RayPublisher inbig news - i met with the elders last night.
they were not arrogant and they were not mean spirited, but of course we all know they also would not budge from the jw brainwashed beliefs they are sworn to uphold.
i let my light shine, and within two minutes of sitting down with them was no longer nervous.. .
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RayP, how you handled that JC was a beautiful thing to see. I cannot believe how calm and composed you were! I hope that you find happiness and closure. I'm sorry for all of your turmoil and heartache you've had along the way.
I see the bureaucratic, legalistic way the organization is run. It's more like a business than a religion in a lot of ways. That's a lot of what helped me to wake up. If my husband had never become an elder and I may have never woken up. Funny thing is, he never divulged confidential information to me, but he would complain about how things were done sometimes. I could see his frustration after elders' meetings a lot of times.
Recently, my hubby told me sometimes he wonders if it's all worth it..I tried to be cool. I wanted to say, "NO, IT'S NOT!!!!" I think every once and a while he starts to question things, but stuffs it down (I did that for YEARS). One day, I hope he gets tired of it and starts asking the right questions. Until then, I remain in this religion. I'm not willing to give up on him.
Thank you for your courage, RayP. I wish I had half of it.
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Social Media is the answer...
by Momma-Tossed-Me insocial media has and will continue to hurt the watchtower, please keep up the effort to reach people via the internet.. watch this video it is great:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvvck3_regc.
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Good video! For those dubs that think Facebook is the devil (like the majority of my family)...well, this well attests to the fact that social media is part of our lives - like it or not - and it's not going anywhere. I agree that it will severely affect the WTS too. How quickly it will affect them remains to be seen.
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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.
by stuckinamovement ini have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.
in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.
even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.
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Thanks for the kind words, Greybeard. I have looked at that site and it has helped me.
Thanks for the hug, NRFG - needed that!
Billy, I'm trying to be clear-headed about this and look for ways to help him think outside the Watchtower box. It's difficult and I hope that I can help him to see that the GB are just human. I am careful about making sure I've closed my browser now! LOL
PTN, looks like we're in a similar position and I feel for you. It's soul crushing sometimes. I just try to appreciate the little things in life - the things that sometimes I used to take for granted. I used to think I was going to live forever - now, as I've told my husband before, I see myself getting old and dying.
Yeah, I use the InPrivate so that he can't see my activity. I hate being dishonest like this, but this religion forces you in this position as soon as you don't agree and realize you're surrounded by family and friends who'd drop you like a hot potato once they found out and couldn't get you to agree to their POV.
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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.
by stuckinamovement ini have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.
in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.
even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.
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I wish my husband was one of those elders:( Right now I am playing along and doing what an elder's wife should. My husband discovered I was on this website because stupid me forget to close the browser window. He questioned me and I was truthful about my feelings about "the truth". He of course said I should talk to other elders since he felt it was beyond him to help me. I cried and expressed to him that I had a change of heart after reading some WT articles on apostacy. He said he would not make me talk to the elders since I said I had a change of heart. I really did try to stay away from this website and change my thinking, but the doubts just kept resurfacing (I couldn't unlearn everything I had learned about "the truth" at that point). I've found myself reading on here more than ever.
I'm not attached to anyone in this religion and would readily leave it all behind if my husband would (he told me, "I'll never leave Jehovah"). I've never been a really social person (my best friend is my hubby) and only really care about keeping my own family intact. My mom is the other problem. She is UBER JW and I really feel like she would have a massive coronary if I ever left. So, here I sit. I'm stuck and trying to make the best of it. In the meantime, I question everything - including the existence of Jehovah himself. Something's gotta give.
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I have a question on the Circuit Accounts Scam thread
by gubberningbody ini didn't want it to get buried and i'd really like to know.. so i knew pretty much what he was saying was true, but what i don't get is how the creative accounting works.. i mean you have to show expenses on the ledger - and i mean real expenses, like the co/do expenses along with receipts.. you have actual costs for the power coming into the building.
the paper supplies and cleaning supplies.
the vacuum cleaners and mops and other sundry items, and you have to have receipts for all that.. i also know that when you made a "donation" it was off the books at the circuit level as far as accounts were concerned.. but how is money not being accounted for?.
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This thread is interesting and it makes me wonder who are the ones benefiting from all this money? I mean, the GB don't seem to be living in the lap of luxury - correct me if I'm wrong. I just have read a lot about the WT corporation getting tons of money (I don't doubt that for a second), but I wonder who are the ones living high on the hog? Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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New here - hello!
by sickandtired ini can't believe i'm actually posting here.
i've been lurking for a while and i've been having doubts about this being the "truth" for years and sometimes feel really stuck and hopeless about my situation.
i'm married to an elder (who is 110% jw) and i was for the most part raised in the "truth".
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I've been busy, but wanted to take the time to thank all of you again. I sometimes wish that I could go back and not know all I know about the organization so that I wouldn't have to be in this mental anguish anymore...ignornance is bliss they say. It seems impossible to leave the organization unscathed. I'm not sure I can do it right now. I'm tired and haven't had much sleep. Maybe I can organize my thoughts a little better after I get some rest. Right now it's hard to picture my life as a non witness. My life is immersed in it. A lot of it has been good, but there has been this nagging feeling that I can no longer just shove in the back of my mind. I know in my heart of hearts that while there is good in this religion, there is unfortunately a lot of bad.
Barbara, thanks for your heartfelt reply to me. I read your story and it had a profound affect on me. I actually read it years ago when I had doubts that kept coming up. I searched the web and came across your story. I put it in the back of my mind and continued on doing what I was supposed to do as an elder's wife. Recently, my life has become more stressful and complicated for reasons that mainly have to do with my being a Witness. Something compelled me to start looking on the web again. I read your story again, more than once. I started visiting this forum. I haven't been able to stop. I can't seem to ignore these nagging doubts anymore. But I find myself excusing a lot of things I read that are negative. (probably because of years of indoctrination, I guess) One thing I always come back to though is the increasing emphasis placed on loyalty to the FDS and the organization. It REALLY bothers me that they focus on that so much. I cannot understand why other Witnesses don't seem to see anything wrong with that thinking.
I used to wonder how I got to be so lucky to be one of the few who had the "truth". Now I no longer think that. And I question everything. Something I never used to do. It's new and scary. It has caused me reevaluate everything that I thought I knew as truth and fact. All I can do is take it one day at a time and hope that my husband starts to wake up as well.
It's funny, I've read the references on this forum to the movie The Matrix. I agree with the analogy. I really liked that movie (saw it edited for television like a good Witness ha, ha). The funny thing is that my husband hated that movie. I'm trying not to read too much into that.