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  Should People Be Disfellowshipped?

  by Frenchy in

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  a reply i made on another thread prompted me to post this.

  i was going to do so on the other thread but that was really not the topic and i didn't want to corrupt it by flying off on another tangent.. i have no problems with disfellowshipping from an organization such as jehovah's witnesses.

  i don't think a person should be allowed to remain within an organization while practicing things that are condemned by that org., things which they, themselves profess not to believe in.. my objection is to the shunning.

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  mommy

  Amen Vennie
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  How Much Are You Worth?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  if you want to know, go to the website www.humanforsale.com.

  i'm officially worth $1,801,662.

  have fun!

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  mommy

  Yikes, I was just trying to imagine being 240 pounds! I am 5'3" and being pregnant I am just now starting to have problems breathing as the baby gets up higher in my belly. That woman must be soooo uncomfortable!

  Msil,
  You Sir...are pricelessDon't ever forget that!
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  How Much Are You Worth?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  if you want to know, go to the website www.humanforsale.com.

  i'm officially worth $1,801,662.

  have fun!

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  Lisa I redid it! Haha. I think it has to do with the health questions. I did not list the health probs in my family the second time around. I also fibbed on the drug question. Those are the only questions I changed, everything else is the same. Guess what I am worth now!

  You are worth exactly: $2,402,490.00.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  How Much Are You Worth?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  if you want to know, go to the website www.humanforsale.com.

  i'm officially worth $1,801,662.

  have fun!

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  mommy

  LOL this is nuts! Okay here is me: You are worth exactly: $1,589,072.00.

  Average value for a female is $1,678,338.00
  I am below average!

  Expat..LOL
  wendy

  making it clickable...
  . http://www.humanforsale.com

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  What helped you get over it?

  by ashitaka in

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  hi guys,.

  what helped you guys get over your anger of being shunned, dealt with unfairly, ignored, etc?.

  my wife and i found comfort in each other.

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  mommy

  It was weird because I remember the day I finally let go. Yes I am still here participating on this DB...but I mean really let go of my anger. I called my parents and spoke to each of them individually. I had walked away from the org, and was not officially DF or reproved. But I was treated as I was. I told each of them I forgave them. And in my heart I did, it was not their fault that their mind was so twisted. My mother laughed at me, and said something to the affect of...well I don't need to be forgiven, I did nothing wrong.

  My dad on the other hand, cried, and actually took the phone outside so we could talk privatly. He told me about his childhood, and things that happened to him, that I did not even know about. He explained why he was a jw, and also told me he did the best he could, and was only trying to do right by us kids. He then asked me for forgiveness after I had already given it to him. He told me there was alot of things wrong with the org, but he thought it was the best way to raise his family. I believed him, and my heart was so much lighter after this convo.

  If they both had the same response, I think I would still have walked away okay. Because I had to start with me, I had to let go and not let it effect me any longer. If I didn't let go of the anger that day, I may have later on down the road. But I assure you it was the best day of my life

  Joel,
  I agree, I think that anywhere we are in life we have those that we stick close to, and those that may be a part of our life but are still at a distance. The friends I went to nursing school wiht, there was 23 that graduated I only speak on a regular basis to about 5 of them. Even though we all were a very close knit bunch when we had our crash study sessions. There are certain personalities we are attracted to, and usually those are the ones who stick by us through the years.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Any Former Elders?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  would any former elders like to share their experiences serving on judicial committees?

  were your decisions subjective?

  do you feel that the "system" works?

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  This thread is very interesting, thank you all for contributing. I have been in many JC meetings, not all for wrong doing but mostly for wrong thinking. I have never been reproved, or DF though. I think the whole idea is absurd anyway. How can a person tell me that they can read my heart?

  One meeting in particular there was a new elder sitting in for his first time. Poor guy looked so scared, and nervous. I think this is when it hit me that these guys are just imperfect men, who really have no idea what they are doing. It was kinda funny because I ended up trying to make him feel comfortable!

  As many others have commented already, some are not able to express themselves as well as others. I believe Waiting commented her daughter went into shell shock, and was very silent during her meeting, the elders took this for unrepentance.

  Roybatty I wonder if I know you! My best friend was 16 and disfellowshipped for smoking. She was also a very quiet person and very shy. It was hard for her to open up to me, so I can only imagine how she reacted in a JC. Poor girl, I remember her walking to meetings when she didn't have a ride from her mom. She was later reinstated, but since then has been out and happy for a few years now.

  I have always spoken to ones who have been DF, I opened doors for them, shared my mags or books with them, and greeted them. I cannot stand the thought of shunning, and can't fathom that this helps anyone! Of course this was the subject of one of my JC meetings

  Old Hippie,
  So this "other" new light will be coming out in another edition of QFR? I can't wait to see what it is.

  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Should People Be Disfellowshipped?

  by Frenchy in

  1. jw
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  a reply i made on another thread prompted me to post this.

  i was going to do so on the other thread but that was really not the topic and i didn't want to corrupt it by flying off on another tangent.. i have no problems with disfellowshipping from an organization such as jehovah's witnesses.

  i don't think a person should be allowed to remain within an organization while practicing things that are condemned by that org., things which they, themselves profess not to believe in.. my objection is to the shunning.

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  Frenchy,
  I personally have a problem with the DF process. I have no problem with DA because a person chooses themselves to walk away. But to have your life decided by other people who are supposed to be reading if you are repentant. I just do not agree with this. How can they honestly know the difference? I don't feel it is our place to judge others.

  Look how emotional people get when things happen that goes against their own conscience. Not one of us can say we objectively look at all things the same. I don't I have things that send me over the top. And I am not so quick to forgive those things, than I am others.

  So I think the whole DF should be abolished. If the org continues to say that jehovah will sort everything out, and the bad apples will be weeded out. Why are they taking it upon themselves to d othe sorting?
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Fasting

  by Celtic in

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  any of you fasted before and if so, for how long and the effects of the experience upon the mind?.

  maybe i must eat more too.. peace.

  celtic

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  I am one of those weird ones that forgets to eat too. I just don't have cravings for food. I have been that way for years. I suffer from hypoglycemia which is low blood sugar, so most of the time I usually am reminded to eat, when my body starts shaking I have always cooked regular meals for my family though, like clockwork. Other than nibble as I cook, I don't always eat it though.

  This past summer I went a week without eating more than an apple, and I had to force myself to do that, and it got stuck in my throat. At the time I was going through a huge emotional ordeal, so I can understand why my mind was least focused on food. As far as the mental aspect of not eating, like I said I was going through a tough time, and my mind was a mess anyway

  I say just listen to your mind, as long as you eat something everyday, or every other day, your body will still respond to cravings. I mean, it will tell you when to eat. If it isn't telling you then it doesn't need it. I think the craving mechanism is cut off though after a long time without food, so be careful. Also it is important to at least drink some juice, as it contains alot of vitamins that your body needs.

  BTW I am going through a feeding frenzy now I can't remember the last time I was so hungry, all the time! So if nothing else works, get preggers
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Who Wants A Christmas Card?

  by Englishman in

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  i want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.

  i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.

  i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.

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  mommy

  I love Christmas!
  I think we need to get it more organized. I like Rhett's idea, how about if everyone sends their email to one place? Then we don't miss anyone? I am up for that
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Feedback needed please

  by MrMoe in

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  my sister in-law is a 10th grade honors student.

  she is 14 and currently enrolled in english ii - a required course.

  she and her fellow students are studing the holocaust in thier honors english class.. the teacher has instructed them to do the following:.

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  Andee,
  I agree that we have no control over accidents in our lives. I was responding to the question from Hillbilly. I also pointed out that we do not know what will happen when we turn the corner. Andee, your children could have been with you when a person hijacked you at knifepoint to steal your car as well. You never know. Anything can happen to any of us anytime, as you said.

  Also I find it funny you would note the difference between accidents and acts of violence, when you are trying to compare violence and sex. There are differences between all of these acts and if this discussion is to be a discussion shouldn't it stick on target? The holocaust, and scenes from the holocaust was the original question in this thread. Do you feel that the kids will walk away with the same notions if they read a story or if they saw the footage?

  I also think it is important for kids who come from a sheltered home, as I said, a parent may have a racist attitude towards Jews. But here the kid will be able to actually see what happened to the jews, and they are young enough to mold. They will be able to sepearate their parents thinking and reality of what really happened to the Jews, and others.

  When I first responded I said it should be on an individual basis. I still beleive this. Some kids are better equipped to handle these scenes than others are. To blanket the entire discussion and say it should not be viewed, is a wide sweeping generalization. and to harbor our children from seeing acts of violence, accidents, etc is not preparing them to face the world.

  I understand what you are saying, and I wish my kids could stay right here with me and never have to leave the house(kinda) But the reality is they can't and I want to prepare them for the horrors of this world. And I am more than willing to allow them to see, read, hear things that can be discussed together. To never allow them this until they are an adult, is only damaging to them. Alot of things can happen between now and 18, the most unthinkable things actually.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins