Simon, notice they have yet to come up with something to argue against what Colonel Mike Turner said.
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Interesting UK Daily Mirror Article
by DakotaRed insince some consider the us to be the most dangerous rogue nation currently and others have stated we are little more than corrupt thugs, i find this article from the daily mirror to be quite intersting.. .
tony parsons - uk daily mirror september 11, 2002 no matter what your views on president bush's statement of upcoming war, this is from an english journalist, is very interesting.
no, do more than remember.
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Post A Message To The Troops
by DakotaRed inregardless of where any stand on the upcoming war, all have said they support the troops.
here is a chance to show that support.
this site is a board strictly for messages to the troops.
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Oh look Dakota you know how to quote me.
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ThiChi, it's funny, I have many gay friends, not one of them is HIV+, my best friends 21 year old hetrosexual daugher is HIV+, so who's more irresponsable. I think the gay community has made many inroads to sexual responsibility, beyond what the hetrosexual community is doing.
LB, damn the visuals! :)
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Interesting UK Daily Mirror Article
by DakotaRed insince some consider the us to be the most dangerous rogue nation currently and others have stated we are little more than corrupt thugs, i find this article from the daily mirror to be quite intersting.. .
tony parsons - uk daily mirror september 11, 2002 no matter what your views on president bush's statement of upcoming war, this is from an english journalist, is very interesting.
no, do more than remember.
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Bite me Dakota, I was having problems with the board last night, the message was much longer than that, for some reason it didn't post my entire message, and when I went to go edit it, I was getting resource errors from the web server. What I said, was you can't even come up with a good argument to counter Retired Colonel Mike Turner was General Norman Schwarzkopf's personal briefing officer during Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm, so you just say yawn. Considering he's an expert witness, come up with something to counter him, you arm chair politician.
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Post A Message To The Troops
by DakotaRed inregardless of where any stand on the upcoming war, all have said they support the troops.
here is a chance to show that support.
this site is a board strictly for messages to the troops.
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Dakota,
I read this yesterday, and was going to respond, but didn't have time, because I have a job, that was the FIRST time I read it, so get off your high horse, because you didn't even have a good argument to counter, Col. Mike Turner, Norman Schwarzkopf's personal briefing officer during Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I hope the Troops don't encounter his worst case scenerio, and I hope they come home safely.
Think41self,
Here is the transcript to an NPR interview with Col. Mike Turner, Norman, considering he was Norman Schwarzkopf's personal briefing officer during Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm, I would consider him an expert on the subject, not these pro-war blow hards that are on this board.
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/transcripts/2003/mar/030311.turner.html
Commentary: Possible Worst-Case Scenarios If War With Iraq Occurs
Morning Edition: March 11, 2003Commentary: War
BOB EDWARDS, host:
Retired Colonel Mike Turner was General Norman Schwarzkopf's personal briefing officer during Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm. As part of MORNING EDITION's ongoing series of commentaries on a possible war in Iraq, he outlines a worst-case scenario for a US-led invasion.
General MIKE TURNER:
There's a saying in military circles: We always fight the last war. It means that too much focus on past enemy behavior can easily lead to misjudging an enemy capability in the future. So I asked myself today which war will this be: Desert Storm or Somalia? In 1991, we had four ironclad prerequisites for war with Iraq: a clear political end state, overwhelming force to achieve a quick and decisive victory, a viable Arab coalition to avoid empowering Arab extremists, and absolutely no Israeli involvement to avoid a global holy war.
In Somalia, we ignored the most critical of these lessons. Mission creep turned our original objective of humanitarian aid into simply `Get Aidid,' the Somali factional leader we were battling. We committed US troops to a high-risk military operation in an urban area with extraordinarily dangerous variables in play on the battlefield, and with insufficient firepower thanks to then Secretary of Defense Les Aspin.
Now we've firmly committed ourselves to war with Iraq, and our political objective? To get Saddam. The uniformed Joint Staff in the Pentagon strongly opposed this plan early on. It requires an attack with a force half that of Desert Storm against an entrenched urban enemy renowned for its ruthlessness in defending its own survival. The uniformed Joint Staff was overridden, yet in so many horrifying ways this operation resembles Somalia, not Desert Storm, only with nerve gas and biological weapons. And without Turkey as a base to launch a northern assault, a dual-pronged attack will be all but impossible.
Perhaps we can pull this off, but here's a far worse scenario that's at least as likely. Within hours of our attack, Saddam launches Scuds on Israel. Israel's right-wing government launches a full-scale attack on Iraq, creating a holy war nightmare. Saddam, threatened with his own survival, uses chemical and biological weapons and human shields just as he has in the past. He torches his own oil fields, thousands of his own people are killed. Photos of American soldiers amid landscapes of Iraqi civilian bodies blanket the world press which aligns unanimously against the US. The US is condemned by NATO and the UN.
The war ends within a few weeks, but the crisis deepens. The US is left to administer a political vacuum in Iraq. Iran is emboldened to help the Shiites in the south. Disease breaks out, food and water are contaminated and the cost of the war skyrockets. The US economy is dealt a body blow, but the administration can find no credible way out. Britain's Prime Minister Blair is voted out of office.
Meanwhile, al-Qaeda, seeing an opportunity due to a shift in US focus, attacks a major US target. North Korea, emboldened by the distraction, ignores diplomatic efforts to restrain its development of nuclear weapons and begins to export weapons-grade plutonium to terrorists.
These are not remote possibilities, but in my view reasonable, possibly even likely outcomes. Thousands of American sons and daughters are about to go to war with Iraq. They will do their duty. They are, without exception, the finest, bravest people I know. May God bless them. I hope their destination is Baghdad and not Mogadishu.
EDWARDS: The comments of Mike Turner, a retired colonel and former policy planner for the Joint Chiefs of Staff on the Mideast and east Africa. -
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Interesting UK Daily Mirror Article
by DakotaRed insince some consider the us to be the most dangerous rogue nation currently and others have stated we are little more than corrupt thugs, i find this article from the daily mirror to be quite intersting.. .
tony parsons - uk daily mirror september 11, 2002 no matter what your views on president bush's statement of upcoming war, this is from an english journalist, is very interesting.
no, do more than remember.
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You need to save those files on a server, and use the links from the server, those are all links to the local files on your hard drive, and that's why we can't see them.
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How long could you live without electricity?
by JH ini lived through the ice storm of january 97 in quebec.
i spent 1 complete day without electricity.
it was about 25f (-5c) outside, and i had no heating.
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As long as I have gas I have power. My car is equiped with a power inverter, bought it to power my laptop and things, while I was on the road, and to charge video camera batteries. Will have my ham radio license soon, so even if the cell phone fails, I'll still have communications. Including digital communications, packet radio over the ham airwaves. Even when we had a bad storm that took our power out for 10 days, I stayed in my motor home, that I had at the time, so I was warm, and had power.
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Interesting UK Daily Mirror Article
by DakotaRed insince some consider the us to be the most dangerous rogue nation currently and others have stated we are little more than corrupt thugs, i find this article from the daily mirror to be quite intersting.. .
tony parsons - uk daily mirror september 11, 2002 no matter what your views on president bush's statement of upcoming war, this is from an english journalist, is very interesting.
no, do more than remember.
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And what does the pro war crowd say to this now? Listen to this, I think he could be considered an expert!
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Warplanes en route to S. Korea/Nuclear war may break out any moment
by RubyTuesday ini find this to be disturbing.are we pushing there buttons?
seoul, south korea, march 12 the u.s. air force said on wednesday that stealth warplanes will arrive in south korea this week for annual military drills that north korea says are evidence of sinister u.s. plans for nuclear war.. north korea said the u.s.-south korean war games which the stealth planes were to join would make the korean peninsula so tense that a nuclear war may break out any moment.. .
http://www.msnbc.com/news/850567.asp?0si=-&cp1=1
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And even if they did, launch the maybe one nuke they might have, north korea would be a glass parking lot, in about 5 minutes flat. You don't think we have subs out there? Do ya.