MrDarkKnight

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  The CULT that rarely gets called a CULT...but sure does look like a CULT...

  by Unlearn in

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  i found this list below on another site.. you've no doubt seen these lists...or lists similar to them: they give you marked ways to identify a cult.. now, i'm sure many of us agree that these signs eerily match a certain watchtower-slangin' group we're all familiar with.. and im sure that what i'm about to bring up has probably been discussed here sometime before 'my' time.. but, look at these 'cult i.d.

  symptoms' below...and let your mind go.

  : let your mind freely wander.. who else do these signs apply to...if you think wider?

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  @Unlearn...I AGREE! Can't wait to see this thread take off...here come the believers!!!!
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  Cult Free Radio on the air this Saturday night with special guest Barbara Anderson

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  that's right.

  barbara anderson will be on cult free radio this saturday evening at 10pm eastern time.. show up to listen and post your questions on the social stream for me to ask her.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.

  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cult-free-radio.

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  Barbara's my hero..cant't wait!
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  People are so stupid and controlled by the media

  by free2beme in

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  i was reading today about all these people who are upset at the big banks for charging more for accounts, to off-set cost for the change in regulations.

  people were saying, "banks are greedy" and "banks are unfair.

  " which is the common thought among society about several key industries.

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  If were not for big business I would not have a job or healthcare. If were not for the government the big business I work for would lose a large piece of business upon which my salary and bonuses are based. If were not for banks I would not have credit cards. None of these entities is inherently evil.

  This may sound a little simplistic, but if we could somehow get it all to work together so that businesses could be profitable, people would have jobs and the government would have funding that they would then pour back into the private sector I think we would all be a bit happier.

  But I guess if it were easy, anyone could do it!
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  The Faithful and Discreet Slave - A JW Myth

  by 00DAD in

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  2. friends

  probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.

  regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .

  "we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

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  @Leolaia I love your posts! You are a great researcher.
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  The seven trumpet blasts of Revelation & the “Millions” campaign.

  by transhuman68 in

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  one of the jehovahs witness doctrines that many of us have had trouble believing is that the seven angels trumpet blasts described in revelation applied to events that occurred in the 1920s at seven assemblies held around the world at the time when judge rutherford was the president of the watchtower society.. the revelation climax book (1988) contains this summary on page 173:.

  highlights of jehovah's trumpetlike judgment proclamations.

  1922 cedar point, ohio: a challenge to christendom's leaders in religion, politics, and big business to justify their failure to bring peace, prosperity, and happiness.

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  I can't believe I could teach the seven trumpets bullshit with straight face as many time as I did.

  MDK
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  A Sneaky Way To Mess With Watchtower Statistics

  by DT in

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  the watchtower society is addicted to numbers and growth.

  the problem is that their very existence is justified by a preaching work that is intended to result in growth.

  other religions don't have that kind of pressure.

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  @DT - I agree with BOC. Most JWs are not hard core loyalists. Most go along with crowd even thought they may not understand everything. They really face two large issues.

  1. The pool of men to from which they choose elders is quite small. It is decreasing all the time.

  2. Blind obedience and not Bible knowledge are the priority with these men. Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz whether you liked them or not were not afraid to rock the boat. Rocking the boat is strongly discouraged. Maitaining the status quo is paramount. This is creating a pool of elders who do cannot lead and that folks will eventually lose confidence in.

  The trend of many to lead normal lives AND APPEAR to be blind followers will continue to accelerate. It used to be that 120 hours a month was "whole-soulded service." Now they are happy if they can get folks to do 30 hours once per year. The lack of strong leadership and lack of numbers for leadership will eventually be the undoing of the organization.
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  A Sneaky Way To Mess With Watchtower Statistics

  by DT in

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  the watchtower society is addicted to numbers and growth.

  the problem is that their very existence is justified by a preaching work that is intended to result in growth.

  other religions don't have that kind of pressure.

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  This idea will not work. When a person turns in a report the hours and mags posted on their publisher record card and on a master sheet that tabulates the report. Any unusual deviations from normal activity would be spotted and questioned at the local level and immediately called into question.

  @DT - When a person does not report time for month they are not counted as active publisher that month and total publisher reporting count goes down by one. If they hand in a late report the next month along with the current report for that month the publisher count goes up by two. Anyone turning two reports for the same month would be flagged. Pumping up the numbers would be really hard.

  The peak publisher number in August is really a bogus number because it reflects all of the current months reports plus any months that were missed. Each report is counted as a publisher. There is no other way for them to do it. The official publisher count for a congregation is taken twice a year when the CO visits. Since every congregation has the CO visit at diffrent times it is not possible for these reports, which are the most accurate because they count publisher record cards, not field service reports to produce the peak number.

  The real number is the average number of publishers because it eliminates the lows from months when the reporting is poor and the highs from months when the elder push to get missing reports and the count is high.

  A+ for creativiy though!
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  A Woman, A Woman - Oh What Can She Be?

  by LoneWolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, peeplezs,.

  down over the years i have experienced plenty of discouragement and cynicism about faith and the existence of a god who cares for us.

  if i allowed myself to dwell on those things alone, i suppose that i too would be feeling hopeless and cynical and would be just waiting until my time is up.. however, i don't feel that way at all.

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  @Meangirl...You made your point. We all disagree. You can get off your soap box and go on home like you said you would and go comment on another thread. That's what I intend to.

  Ridiculous.
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  Seeking Reinstatement

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  no, i'm not seeking to be reinstated so don't worry.

  but i did want to raise a point in relation to this.

  i know this was true in my case and i've seen it in others i have talked to about this.

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  @ziddina - The fact that many of us are hiding behind secret indentities while on this board is a very telling example of how far reaching the cruel practice of shunning is. There simply is no graceful way to exit the JWs no matter what their PR men say.
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  What exactly are men at the back of the hall taking care of?

  by howdidtihappen in

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  2. beliefs

  once people have come in, and the doorman and the mic men are in place, why are there a few other suits scattered about at the back?

  i saw a guy get up, sit down, get up, sit down, get up and when i looked what he was up to he was reading the noticeboard and looking around, waiting for a bus.

  i figured he wasn't doing much at that point, but anything to not stay seated.

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  When I served as an elder I was up and down ALL the time. I did as much of my WTBS administrative work as I could during the meetings so I would have more time at home for myself. I stood in the back as much as I could as it made the time pass by quicker.

  I remember the first meeting I attended after I was no longer an elder. For the first time I realized how incredibly BORING the meetings were. One sister, who is a close friend of mine could see how bored I was. On her way to the restroom she leaned over and whispered in my ear: "Now you get to suffer like the rest of us."

  I laughed out loud. The I got up and went outside. I do not miss the meetings at all.