there has been some renewed interest in the meaning of the name jehovah on the forum in recent weeks.
combined with the ongoing discussion about the new "overlapping generation" teaching, speculation among the friends and among the ex-friends has been reaching something of a frenzy.
so it's perhaps appropriate that a little more should be revealed now about the meaning behind some of the perplexing events that have been taking place.
That's an interesting conspiracy. The tunnel to Washington convinced me it was all a farce.
If they join the UN again will they be forced to wander another 40 years up to the year 2074?
Isaac Newton's end of world date happens to be 2060. To be honest, I think something interesting will happen in the fall of next year.
in acts 7:59, the jews were casting stones at stephen and his last words were, "lord jesus, receive my spirit.".
the wts has contended that all of the ancients who died after jesus were in a sleep-like condition, awaiting a resurrection that eventually happened in 1918-1919 (depending upon which wt reference you are looking at).
and in fact, v. 60 says stephen "fell asleep in death".
I think Stephen believed his spirit would leave him when he died. Jesus also said the same thing when he was about to die. Some scriptures imply that spirit animates the body and when you die that spirit leaves you and goes back to God from where it came. It appears to be the breath of life. When you stop breathing you will die in minutes unless you are resuscitated. The two were yielding up their life giving air which belongs to God.
These are the scriptures that come to mind:
Job 27:3 "The spirit of God is in my nostrils."
Psalms 104:29 "If you take away their spirit, they expire and back to dust they go."
Psalms 146:4 "His spirit goes out he goes back to his ground, in that day his thoughts perish."
Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the spirit itself returns to the true God who gave it."
Luke 8:55 "And her spirit returned and she rose instantly."
Just exchange the word spirit with oxygen or the ability to breath.
i know witnesses believe that miracles were done away with other "gifts" after the apostles died but every so often they suggest god produced a miracle.. did you believe that jehovah god saved you out of a bad situation?
did you accept that god's angel help you out?.
I could probably count 3 times in my life but only after I started thinking for myself. I thought it strange that a two congregation memorial observance could be thwarted by a forgetful school janitor, without any divine intervention.
For me, one instance was a million to 1 shot. The second and the third could have been an amazing coincidence.
i witnessed the cleansing of the heavens in the year 2004, like the birth pains of a women, or nine years........ an increase of lawlessness, the economic downfall, the trials and tribulations of the faithful and discreet are being fulfilled as we speak.......prepare for the return of jesus christ........and every eye shall see him........ the slave of jah and of christ....... estephan.
"Those seeking truth shall find it directly from above through his faithful slave....all that seek shall be written in the book of life. This person is worthy of everlasting life..." - Este
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I'm touched by that statement. I asked the question to see if you were one of the JW FDS. I didn't know your story but everyone here certainly does. Your second statement about the abomination standing where is ought not tells me you're from mainstream christianity. That answer is very common and is expected by most. Are you sure that is your final answer?
This is a game of Chess and the opponent already knows the common move. Will he play that move in the end? I doubt it. Matthew and Mark both said, "Reader attend!" or "he reading let him think" in their account about the coming abomination and this implies a unique move.
...so say we all.
i witnessed the cleansing of the heavens in the year 2004, like the birth pains of a women, or nine years........ an increase of lawlessness, the economic downfall, the trials and tribulations of the faithful and discreet are being fulfilled as we speak.......prepare for the return of jesus christ........and every eye shall see him........ the slave of jah and of christ....... estephan.
What's the abomination that causes desolation, standing where it ought not?
i know its a year away but i wanted to inquire about the hundred year anniversary of 1914. it would be amazing to have a world wide event reguarding all exjws.
i am nowhere near capable of putting this together but i'd like to propose the largest assembly of exjws ever on october 1st 2014. can it be done?
am i the first to bring this up?
Meet together October 19, 2014.
That's the date comet C/2013 A1 (Siding Spring) is supposed to hit Mars, or just be a near miss. The comet's nucleus is estimated to be somewhere between 5 to 30 miles (8 to 50km) in diameter. It's being compared to earth's dinosaur killer asteroid/comet.
Everyone will be glued to the TV that day so you'll get coverage between the news reporting of Mars and its potential armageddon or not.
i have seen it alluded to in various posts that there is a major rift between the service and writing departments at the world hq.
for those of you in the know, please explain what is going on, who the players are, what turf are they battling over, who is winning, and the consequences of all of this.
i am intrigued but i know nothing about it.
The last leader in the Org with a wild imagination would be the person who started the faith. That would be Russell.
i have seen it alluded to in various posts that there is a major rift between the service and writing departments at the world hq.
for those of you in the know, please explain what is going on, who the players are, what turf are they battling over, who is winning, and the consequences of all of this.
i am intrigued but i know nothing about it.
There was a new light teaser in the 2011 District assembly invitation. Everybody was talking about it and hoping it was something good. The back of the invitation had a picture of the dream image in Daniel which represented the kingdom powers starting with Babylon. They had put a question mark pointed at the toes of the image. They saved this talk for Sunday and explained why they put the question mark on the toes. They wanted to clear up any misunderstanding of the toes being another kingdom yet to rise. Since the feet and toes were mentioned together when the scripture described the mixture of clay with iron they said the toes being singled out in the next verse had no extraordinary fulfillment of its own. They said we were in the period of the feet which is the last event to be fulfilled. Next they explained what is meant by clay mixed in with iron. The iron represents the firm governmental dictates of law. The clay represents the institutions that seek out human rights to overturn harsh governmental policies.
i have seen it alluded to in various posts that there is a major rift between the service and writing departments at the world hq.
for those of you in the know, please explain what is going on, who the players are, what turf are they battling over, who is winning, and the consequences of all of this.
i am intrigued but i know nothing about it.
Don’t expect any new revelations of future events with this current model. The only changes to come about from this staff are damage control issues, such things as 1914 and the generation teachings. The new light about the toes revealed their limited ability to agree on future events hinted by prophecy.
If you had a new concept to tell the GB what would it be? Would they consider it for a vote?
Here’s a crazy one that came to mind for entertainment purposes: All those resurrected on earth have to be birthed out of the womb during the thousand year reign. I got this idea from the movie called Village of the Damned. So then you will be born again. That would be freaky. The Service department would explode with this one.
hi guys ,i hope you can help here .i'm currently researching the tower of babel and the reasons for building it in the first place?
could it be that nimrod had information or plans based on a pre-flood building ?
bab+el=gate+god could it be an attempt to rebuild a pre-flood structure that served as the gates to the god's (whether materialised satan+demons) or base of angels on earth ?
Try Enoch 1. Maybe he was simulating Mt. Armon, which also could be another name for Mt. Hermon. This is what Enoch, 7:7-8 says:
“Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual execrations. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the top of mount Armon. That mountain therefore was called Armon, because they had sworn upon it, and bound themselves by mutual execrations.”
(The Book of Enoch the Prophet – Original 1883 edition translated by Richard Laurence)
