Last year the cong I was in had all reg & aux pioneers stand up at the front of the hall. While they tried to guilt those still in their seat to sign up.
I wonder if that will happen again?
discreetslave
JoinedPosts by discreetslave
-
33
March 2012 Aux Pioneering
by truthlover inso far what is the response to the aux pioneering this year vs last year?.
in our cong - only 10 so far vs 52 last april.
-
discreetslave
-
15
Have you regained your Self Esteem after being " Used " by the WT society ?
by flipper inin this book on mind control cults and recovering from abusive relationships that my wife and i are reading titled , " take back your life " by janja lalich & madeleine tobias - it discusses in detail how damage we've received from cults or abusive relationships stays with us after we exit .
in the chapter " coping with emotions " it states some interesting things under the subheading " loss of self esteem ".. it states regarding after leaving a cult ( jw's, scientology, etc.
) on pg.
-
discreetslave
Leaving the borg in itself was a boost to my self esteem. I am proud that I stood up for myself and decided to be in control of my own life.
You are told you can't trust yourself, your own feelings and views on anything means nothing if not in harmony with how they interpret the Bible. I am now responsible for my life so I have to own up to my mistakes and not relegate it to sin. Now I get to enjoy and take the credit for decisions that go well and contribute to the wellbeing of myself and others. I still have a way to go but my self esteem is finally in the black as opposed to constantly being in the red as it was as a JW. -
84
Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
-
discreetslave
I forgot about the not charging interest anymore (I think my father in law said that to me back in 2007).
Then it it's about skimming off the top and keeping the WBT$ name on the deed. The remodel done for a cong I was in back in 2007 was never really completed. There were many little things left undone and when I left that cong last year there was stuff already in need of repairs. It was definitely not worth what they had paid for it. -
84
Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
-
discreetslave
My father in law told me some time ago that at a big RBC meeting they were told if a KH is paid for and there is another in the circuit or district that is in need of repairs take out a loan (with the WT of course) and donate the funds to the hall in need. This way a KH with publishers with a lower income doesn't have to take out a huge loan if one is still needed to meet the cost. He made it seem like this is so wonderful and caring but I thought why doesn't the WT help them out instead of others taking on a debt.
-
57
does the gb really believe or is this a game ?
by mP inim assuming we all realise the gb may be many things but the individuals are not fools.
given the changes in ideas, formulation of new light and so on, do they buy the fascade they are presenting ?
if theres anyone in there, surely they as men, know how very man made it has always been.
-
discreetslave
When it comes to the WBT$ nothing surprises me anymore so I wouldn't be surprised if profits were involved.
-
57
does the gb really believe or is this a game ?
by mP inim assuming we all realise the gb may be many things but the individuals are not fools.
given the changes in ideas, formulation of new light and so on, do they buy the fascade they are presenting ?
if theres anyone in there, surely they as men, know how very man made it has always been.
-
discreetslave
I don't know why it's a secret. Every Annual Meeting I was at they would say a vote was taken beforehand as to who would serve in what capacity on the various corporations. Many people in the audience were supposedly those with voting rights and not all were from the US Branch.
-
57
does the gb really believe or is this a game ?
by mP inim assuming we all realise the gb may be many things but the individuals are not fools.
given the changes in ideas, formulation of new light and so on, do they buy the fascade they are presenting ?
if theres anyone in there, surely they as men, know how very man made it has always been.
-
discreetslave
I think the most sincere of the bunch is Guy Pierce & Steve Lett. If I had to pick one to as having a conflict within & leaving, I pick Lett. I say this based on my memory of them at Bethel and the way they interact with people when at assemblies.
Bella 15 made a good point there are and always have been shareholders.
Those running the various corporations and the lawyers are a bunch of sharks. It's always been a sham but IMO I think things really changed when they removed the GB from the corporations in 2000. -
12
Watchtower and Communist propaganda
by aqwsed12345 inhave you ever wondered about the similarity of the watchtower-style and communist propaganda?
think about the "years' text" on kingdom halls'walls or catchwords on circuit assemblies.
on communist party assemblies there were a same-type text like "long live the socialism" etc.
-
discreetslave
In WT pics and in the communist ones when holding a closed book they hold it backwards so you can see the title of the book.
-
18
My 8 year old gets it
by discreetslave inmy 8 year old has recently discovered star trek and loves it.
the other night we watched an episode "return of the archons".
whenever someone spoke differently or questioned, it was recognized that they were not one of them or "of the body".
-
discreetslave
Out4good3 Dead on.
I want to cry when I think about how insecure she was becoming and how after leaving I had to convince her college is a good thing. -
11
10 signs of emotional abuse vs WTS
by wallsofjericho incheck out this video on you tube about emotional abuse and then compare that to the control tactics of the wts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwtadfic4kq&feature=related.
1 - making you feel worthless, without any value.. *** w55 1/15 p. 41 is your best good enough?
-
discreetslave
I was a teenager with low self esteem due to a dysfunctional upbringing and abuse when I started studying. I could never understand why the longer I was a JW the more depressed I became and still had no self worth. I would point the finger to my past then after some thorough examination I realized my childhood wasn't as big a factor as it was when I became a JW. Nevr feeling good enough for Jehovah or as a JW became the bigger issue.