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I told my husband I don't want my kids near that magazine the nerve. They condemn the worlds violence and put out such hate themselves.
discreetslave
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What do you think of the pictures (both illustrations and photos) in WT literature?
by Chemical Emotions ini used to really like the drawings as a kid.
the artists, i think, are usually pretty good, not so much at portraying emotions but in technical ways.
the photos always seemed silly to me.. so what do all of you think?.
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Michael Jackson Music and WT Doctrine
by discreetslave inwith the disgust i feel over the betrayal of the wbts i've started listening to michael jackson.
pre jw as a child i loved mj i remember listening to his music thru some rough times at home.
when i became a jw i no longer listened to his music since he was da.
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discreetslave
This song makes me think of the name calling, gossip, & backbiting
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
[Chorus]
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
[1st Verse]
I Took My Baby To The Doctor
With A Fever, But Nothing He Found
By The Time This Hit The Street
They Said She Had A Breakdown
Someone's Always Tryin' To Start My Baby Cryin'
Talkin', Squealin', Lyin'
Sayin' You Just Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
[Chorus]
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
[2nd Verse]
You Love To Pretend That You're Good
When You're Always Up To No Good
You Really Can't Make Him Hate Her
So Your Tongue Became A Razor
Someone's Always Tryin' To Keep My Baby Cryin'
Treacherous, Cunnin', Declinin'
You Got My Baby Cryin'
[Chorus]
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
You're A Vegetable, You're A Vegetable
Still They Hate You, You're A Vegetable
You're Just A Buffet, You're A Vegetable
They Eat Off Of You, You're A Vegetable
[3rd Verse]
Billie Jean Is Always Talkin'
When Nobody Else Is Talkin'
Tellin' Lies And Rubbin' Shoulders
So They Called Her Mouth A Motor
Someone's Always Tryin' To Start My Baby Cryin'
Talkin', Squealin', Spyin'
Sayin' You Just Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
[Chorus]
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
You're A Vegetable, You're A Vegetable
Still They Hate You, You're A Vegetable
You're Just A Buffet, You're A Vegetable
They Eat Off Of You, You're A Vegetable
[Ad-Lib]
If You Cant Feed Your Baby (Yeah, Yeah)
Then Don't Have A Baby (Yeah, Yeah)
And Don't Think Maybe (Yeah, Yeah)
If You Can't Feed Your Baby (Yeah, Yeah)
You'll Be Always Tryin'
To Stop That Child From Cryin'
Hustlin', Stealin', Lyin'
Now Baby's Slowly Dyin'
[Chorus]
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
I Said You Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
You Got To Be Startin' Somethin'
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah)
Too Low To Get Under (Yeah, Yeah)
You're Stuck In The Middle (Yeah, Yeah)
And The Pain Is Thunder (Yeah, Yeah)
[Ad-Lib]
Lift Your Head Up High
And Scream Out To The World
I Know I Am Someone
And Let The Truth Unfurl
No One Can Hurt You Now
Because You Know What's True
Yes, I Believe In Me
So You Believe In You
Help Me Sing It, Ma Ma Se,
Ma Ma Sa, Ma Ma Coo Sa
Ma Ma Se, Ma Ma Sa,
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Michael Jackson Music and WT Doctrine
by discreetslave inwith the disgust i feel over the betrayal of the wbts i've started listening to michael jackson.
pre jw as a child i loved mj i remember listening to his music thru some rough times at home.
when i became a jw i no longer listened to his music since he was da.
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discreetslave
With the disgust I feel over the betrayal of the WBTS I've started listening to Michael Jackson. Pre JW as a child I loved MJ I remember listening to his music thru some rough times at home. When I became a JW I no longer listened to his music since he was DA. I could never grasp how many JW's didn't make the same connection. Now I've been listening to him again. I am finding as a ex-JW at heart his lyrics have deeper meaning. I'd like to think he was subconciously warning us. See if you get what I'm hearing I'll start with Scream
Scream Lyrics
(Michael)
Tired of injustice
Tired of the schemes
These lies are disgustin'
So what does this mean? (Daddy)
Kicking me down
I got to get up
As jacked as it sounds
The whole system sucks (Daddy it)
(Janet)
Peek in the shadow
Come into the light
You tell me I'm wrong
Then you better prove you're right
You're sellin out souls but
I care about mine
I've got to get stronger
And I won't give up the fight
(Michael)
With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream
(Janet: Make you wanna scream)
Your bash abusin victimize within the scheme
(Janet)
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize
(Both)
Somebody please have mercy
Cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin me
Just stop pressurin me
Stop pressurin me
Make me wanna scream
Stop pressurin me
Just stop pressurin me
Stop pressurin me
Make you just wanna scream
(Michael)
Tired of you tellin the story your way
You're causin' confusion
You think it's okay (damn it!)
(Janet)
You keep changin' the rules
While I keep playin' the game
I can't take it much longer
I think I might go insane
(Michael)
With such confusion don't it make you wanna scream
(Janet: Make you wanna scream)
Your bash abusin victimize within the scheme
(Janet)
You find your pleasure scandalizin every lie
(Both)
Oh father, please have mercy cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin me
Just stop pressurin me
Stop pressurin me
Make me wanna scream
Stop pressurin me
Just stop pressurin me
Stop fuckin with me
Make me wanna scream
(Janet)
"Oh my God, can't believe what I saw
As I turned on the TV this evening
I was disgusted by all the injustice
All the injustice"
(Michael)
"All the injustice"
(News Man)
(Michael)
With such collusions don't it make you wanna scream
(Janet: Make you wanna scream)
Your bash abusin' victimize within the scheme
(Janet)
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize
(Both)
Oh brother please have mercy'Cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin me Just stop pressurin' me
Stop pressurin me Makes me wanna scream -
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Jehovah Witnesses Bethel: A Place Of Order
by Bangalore injehovah witnesses' bethel: a place of order.. http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/features/4351-jehovah-witnesses-bethel-a-place-of-order.
bangalore.
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discreetslave
"everything seems perfect" makes me think of Matthew 23:27,28
27 “Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because YOU resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness. 28 In that way YOU also, outwardly indeed, appear righteous to men, but inside YOU are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Did anyone notice the link at the bottom it reads "How To Give Your Woman Earth-Shaking Orgasms. Click here"
Made me think of the time I was in the middle of an orgasm I got loud and my husband covered my face with a pillow. I always think what would he say if he had suffocated me?
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Cheering up sad souls at the Kingdom Hall
by compound complex ingreetings, my friends:.
wishing you a happy and carefree sunday.
i've just returned from the sunday meeting and visits to the homes of those who missed the uplifting talk and wt study this morning (i'm trying to be positive).
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discreetslave
Give them full hugs some need a kiss too. Get a half hearted I'm good tell them look me in the eyes and say that then ask what's up do you need to talk.
We must use scriptures when giving encouragement.
James 3:16,17 "16 Do not be misled, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights, and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow." So anything that brings joy to their hearts is Jehovah reminding them he loves them. Tell them to splurge on themselves is a gift of the happy God. Fathers give their children presents so does Jehovah & his Son. Remind them behaving like a Christian is service to God
Remind ones Jehovah & Jesus is the only one who knows how hard they try and they see. When ones feel bad about service tell them they did their best and to remember it's supposed to be a great crowd no man was able to number so don't get hung up on the numbers remember Jehovah and Jesus know their motives.
2 Cor 8:12 "For if the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have."
Gal 6:3,4 "3 For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he is deceiving his own mind. 4 But let each one prove what his own work is, and then he will have cause for exultation in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person. 5 For each one will carry his own load."
1 John 3:19-22 19 By this we shall know that we originate with the truth, and we shall assure our hearts before him 20 as regards whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things. 21 Beloved ones, if [our] hearts do not condemn [us], we have freeness of speech toward God; 22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we are observing his commandments and are doing the things that are pleasing in his eyes.
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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?
by Chemical Emotions ini think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.
the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.
those were horrible.
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discreetslave
Someone explained overlapping generations this way: An anointed connection orpassing of the torch between Russell 1914 and today example given was Fred Franz as the liason to anointed today. Franz was a bible student in 1914 lived through 1992. David Splane is anointed his only connection to 1914 is his association with Fred Franz. It's a classic case of cult revolvement around a person. Many of us have heard the idolatry in peoples comments when discussing Fred Franz and his amazing command of the bible. Some were surprised no mention of Fred Franz in the new video. They reasoned he was so humble they wanted to honor that quality
Did anyone notice this point in the WT Study para 10
10, 11. As a family, what spiritual goals are you pursuing,
and what goals would you like to set for the
future?Even setting small realistic goals that
are within reach of nearly every family
member can yield rich dividends. Take, for
example, the goal of discussing the day’s
text every day. The comments given by
family members can help the head of the
household to discern the degree of their
spirituality. The goal of regularly reading
the Bible together as a family provides an excellent
opportunity for children to improve
their reading skills as well as their comprehension
of the Bible’s message. (Ps. 1:1, 2)
And should we not want to make itour goal
to improve the quality of our prayers? Cultivating
aspects of the fruitage of the spirit to
a greater degree can also be an excellent goal
to pursue. (Gal. 5:22, 23) Or what about
looking for ways to show fellow feeling for
people we meet in the ministry? Striving to
do that as a family can help children learn to
be compassionate, and they will be more
likely to develop a desire to serve as regular
pioneers or missionaries.There is no mention of fellow feeling or LOVE for those in the cong. Children will learn compassion in service not by caring for those related in the faith
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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?
by Chemical Emotions ini think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.
the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.
those were horrible.
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discreetslave
How I make WT literature inoffensive and survive being stuck in the org.
Turn the tables. Everything the Faithful Evil Slave Class dispenses applies to them and Watchtower Minions. Picture the misled, and lost sheep as those you have to save before Armageddon.
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Undercover Brother Campaign- have you received your invite?
by stuckinamovement inwithout specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
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discreetslave
PLEASE PM!!! I want to play!!!!!
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What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?
by Chemical Emotions ini think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.
the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.
those were horrible.
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discreetslave
How about articles that blamed mental illness on demons or not enough field service?
I had a WTF (pardon the language) moment with the 24 elders dispensing food. I thought so is the GB playing Ouija now to contact Russell, Rutherford,& Franz since they are not as creative. By that logic since I as an apostate am receiving messages from Ray Franz & Michael Jackson they make me wanna scream
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Do you believe in an annointed class?
by irondork inregarless of their identity - in fact, if they are really "discreet" their identity should probably remain unknown - do you believe the bible speaks of a spirit annointed class of folks, a limited number of humans that have been called to heaven to serve with jesus?.
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discreetslave
No because when he sees me he says get behind me Satan.
I don't mean to come off preachy if I do forgive me