in the future, it could be the case that the wtbts has sold all of its assets including kingdom halls, branch offices, and stocks to pay lawsuits.
there is a schism in the religion.
membership of original jws has dwindled however the die hards remain loyal, unemployed, poor, dressed in rags.
In the future, it could be the case that the WTBTS has sold all of its assets including Kingdom Halls, Branch offices, and stocks to pay lawsuits. There is a schism in the religion. Membership of original JWs has dwindled however the die hards remain loyal, unemployed, poor, dressed in rags.
To keep them on track, a new Armageddon prediction is made. The talk would go something like this…. Please watch (if you like Brit humour) it’s very funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hJQ18S6aag
i dont know if you are aware but i was informed recently that jw governing body member tony pants morris was in a safari park in africa.
he stumbled across a skinny hungry looking lioness with cubs nearby.
not seeing a way to escape, he got on his knees and started praying, pleading for help.
has anyone watched this scifi series?
has it helped anyone wake up to ttatt?
i woke up many years ago, however this incredible series reinforces my beliefs about religion.
Has anyone watched this SciFi series? Has it helped anyone wake up to TTATT? i woke up many years ago, however this incredible series reinforces my beliefs about religion. Which is why I'm not religious.
There are many parallels to the Governing Body (however well intentioned they may be as individual persons), Delusional, based on brainwashing perhaps. Many parallels with Stargate SG1. Any thoughts?
if jws did the following, i believe they would grow exponentially and become one of the largest 'religions' on earth : .
1. no more dfing or shunning......its up to your conscience who you like or don't like.
in the same way if i was catholic living in ireland, i wouldn't hang out with my neighbor if she was a drunk fornicator, just had an abortion, had a taliban boyfriend and also supported liverpool soccer club.
if jws did the following, i believe they would grow exponentially and become one of the largest 'religions' on earth : .
1. no more dfing or shunning......its up to your conscience who you like or don't like.
in the same way if i was catholic living in ireland, i wouldn't hang out with my neighbor if she was a drunk fornicator, just had an abortion, had a taliban boyfriend and also supported liverpool soccer club.
If JWs did the following, I believe they would grow exponentially and become one of the largest 'religions' on Earth :
1. No more DFing or shunning......its up to your conscience who you like or don't like. in the same way if i was Catholic living in Ireland, I wouldn't hang out with my neighbor if she was a drunk fornicator, just had an abortion, had a Taliban boyfriend and also supported Liverpool Soccer club. Specifically the latter.
2. No more 'ministry' going house to house or street witnessing.
3. Spend 10-130 hours every month helping fellow human beings practically, emotionally and financially who are NOT JWs or family members. And optionally fill an S8 every month re above.
Universal Unitarians on steroids? 50% of the current JW cong would be auxiliary pioneers half the year. What do you think?
there are 2 questions that generate more pain,suffering & death, than any other question in existence.. these 2 questions are :.
"does god exist?".
"who is god"?.
i've seen references to baptism annulment on a few websites, does anyone know if there has ever been a successful annulment of a baptism?.
eg.
a minor claims they didn't understand a key wtbts teaching prior to baptism, is there any realistic chance of annulment?
Dear Tornintwo.
I very much sympathize as i was baptized very young. See Paul Grudy;s story. He owns the excellent JWfacts website. http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/grundy.php . The Borg's attitude will likely be it's too late. You're a JW whether you like it or not.
Depending on your citizenship there may be legal remedies for 'leverage purposes', however if you are American the Borg will defend with 1st amendment. Paul is Australian and it appears he had no legal case.
i pray one day this injustice of child baptisms, where kids enter into a contract with the Borg without knowing all the facts, will end. i wish you well buddy.
actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out.
the chair:.
...so there we have it brothers, were up shit creek!
The following funny clip is from a secret possibly Governing Body meeting sometime during those missing years between 100CE and 1879, when there was a JW presence on Earth but know one knows who they were.
i was paired with this older "brother" when i was a teenager.
he was very very strange.
he was a nice guy but goofy.
Slight deviation from 'ministry' although from what i can remember i could count my hours. I was a kid in a drama at huge 40,000 ass-embly in the 70s. My claim to fame was i had to pretend to beat Jeremiah while he was in 'the stocks'. During the live performance i remember that i actually kept slapping the poor bugger on his bald head which got him a bit upset. He kept saying 'stop this'.
I also remember after the drama, we were in the changing room (i was trying to avoid Bro 'Jeremiah') and within one millionth of a second after the closing prayer finished, some kid who was also in the same drama, piped up, ...where's my pants? We all burst into laughter. Alas i never made it to Hollywood for my acting skills. For the record, surprisingly none of us Drama kids were molested, although 'Jeremiah' may have wanted to give me a good spanking over his knee.
Any Drama Bros or sis's out there that can share experiences? ,
so how much would it take to bankrupt the watchtower organization, they're already having to bleed tens of millions to child abuse victims, how much more would it take to bring the society to it's knees, i know at one point they were going to sell off bethel.
Borg UK accounts are interesting
There are two key charities in the UK for the Borg. WTBTS of Britain and International Bible Students Asc. The links for the audited accounts of the WTBTS from the Charity Commission UK website are shown below. Their 2015 Accounts are about to be published, however what’s interesting is the extracts below from 2013/2014. Sorry if copy/paste doesn't line up properly.
You can get DFd for buying lottery tickets, but it’s OK for the Borg to gamble donated money
In 2013 they were happy that their flutter worked (Merrill Lynch, I think)
In 2014 they gambled on currency and lost.
Also, they had 8 months expenditure reserves in 2013, but in 2014 it was 6 months.
Furthermore, in 2014 accounts, litigation is shown as a risk. I wonder why? They are also seeking to relocate to save funds.
2013 Accounts http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends61/0001077961_AC_20130831_E_C.pdf
Report of the Trustees
for the Year Ended 31st August 2013
FINANCIAL REVIEW
Investment policy and objectives
The memorandum and articles give power to invest funds in any lawful manner having full regard to the suitability of
the investments, the need for diversification, and to be a socially responsible investor having due consideration to the
beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. The objective is to preserve capital and achieve a real return of 4% plus inflation. The
portfolio had a positive performance on August 31, 2013 of 4.6%. Given the objective, and because of the necessity to
retain a conservative investment strategy we are happy to have achieved a real return above the inflation benchmark of
3.1%. To reduce risk the portfolio was diversified by currency and asset class. The trustees continue to see the wisdom
in holding to the current strategy favouring portfolio diversification both by asset class and currency exposure, having
adequate liquidity and investment quality.
FINANCIAL REVIEW
Reserves policy
Although the charity has a consistent income base, the trustees have arranged to work closely with a similar charity
overseas. This arrangement continues to work well. At the year-end, free reserves stood at £21,471,000 which
represented 8 months of expenditure (2012: £17,056,000 and 5 months). The trustees feel that such a policy makes best
use of the charity's income, and are confident that it in no way adversely affects the charity's ability to both sustain and
increase its activity.
2014 Accounts http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends61/0001077961_AC_20140831_E_C.pdf
for the Year Ended 31st August 2014 STRATEGIC REPORT
Financial review Investment policy and objectives
The memorandum and articles give power to invest funds in any lawful manner having full regard to the suitability of the investments, the need for diversification, and to be a socially responsible investor having due consideration to the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. The objective is to balance the following issues: Preserve the purchasing power, provide adequate liquidity and provide consistent long-term returns. Over the fiscal period, the Portfolio remained diversified by currency, overweighting the US dollar and due to the charity re-location project, holding mainly highly liquid assets. During the period, the value of sterling improved verses other currencies the portfolio holds. This is reflected in the value of the Fund decreasing by 4.5%, in sterling terms, primarily due to currency effects. It is anticipated that sterling will weaken against the US dollar reversing the loss in the following quarters. The trustees continue to see the wisdom in holding to the current strategy favouring portfolio diversification both by asset class and currency exposure, having adequate liquidity in investment quality.
Principal risks and uncertainties
The principal risks and uncertainties facing the charity are: Litigation; Failure to comply with legal requirements on health and safety, fire, environment, waste; Disaster in Kingdom Hall construction or maintenance. Statutory inquiry The Charity Commission has opened a statutory inquiry.
Plans for future periods
The charity is actively seeking to relocate its facilities in order to save funds.
Financial review
Reserves policy
Although the charity has a consistent income base, the trustees have arranged to work closely with a similar charity
overseas. This arrangement continues to work well. At the year-end, free reserves stood at £24,179,000 which
represented 6 months of expenditure (2013: £21,471,000 and 8 months). The trustees feel that such a policy is prudent
in the current financial climate and makes best use of the charity's income, and are confident that it in no way adversely
affects the charity's ability to both sustain and increase its activity
