JWin, I haven't seen it as orientation specific.. My brother is straight and he survived his suicide attempt (although the doctor told us to plan the funeral..it was touch and go), my sister (she's gay) thought of it often but never acted upon it and I thought about it for years but never attempted it (I'm gay as well)..We were all Witnesses. I've seen this in many groups where the faith has cultish aspects to it.
morrisamb
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Suicides within Jehovah's Witnesses
by Leander inover the past 3-4 years i've been hearing about a number of suicides that have been committed by jws.
whats even more interesting is that all of the individuals were male and they all had some form of a privileged position in the congregation.
(regular pioneer, elder, minsterial servant, etc..).
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2002 Grammy's-Who Will Win?
by Mister Biggs inbelow are the nominees of some categories.
who do you think will win?
my choices are in red.. 1) record of the year.
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morrisamb
Love Sade, but am the only Canadian rooting for Nelly Furtado
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Bethel's gay Neighbors
by metatron ini don't think i've ever seen the subject come up here.
or on the old h2o site but many of you foreign types.
may not be aware that brookyln bethel has been.
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morrisamb
Gee, this is almost as good as a gay chat line...almost I said...
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Bethel's gay Neighbors
by metatron ini don't think i've ever seen the subject come up here.
or on the old h2o site but many of you foreign types.
may not be aware that brookyln bethel has been.
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morrisamb
And I'm happy too! Although somedays I lean toward asexual...gay is a title that I think people "need" to define people like me. Why do you ask?
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Suicides within Jehovah's Witnesses
by Leander inover the past 3-4 years i've been hearing about a number of suicides that have been committed by jws.
whats even more interesting is that all of the individuals were male and they all had some form of a privileged position in the congregation.
(regular pioneer, elder, minsterial servant, etc..).
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morrisamb
When I was five there was this beautiful young woman who came to our home Bible Study. Within a couple of months my mother told me she committed suicide in the washroom of the Witness couples's home while she was babysitting. Mom said she had emotional problems and was depressed over some guy.
It was a bizarre early introduction to this topic.
When I was in my teens, suicide is all I thought about and I told an Elder who studied with me..he said, "You have no right to commit suicide...It's worse than murder." I argued with him. He said,"Because you are taking your own life which you have no right to." Bizarre once again. Interesting that the cure for my suicidal thoughts was a denying of how I was feeling..yet again.
In the last few years I know of a Witness who committed suicide because he was dispondent over his separation/disappointing families/witnesses..he had not been attending meetings. Then a Witness killed himself just before Xmas 2 years ago in his mother's back yard...
In my case, I would say, having the Witness faith in my teens did give me a reason not to kill myself..It didn't solve my problems, but for several moments my just wanting to believe their God loved me prevented me from taking this tragic step. -
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Bethel's gay Neighbors
by metatron ini don't think i've ever seen the subject come up here.
or on the old h2o site but many of you foreign types.
may not be aware that brookyln bethel has been.
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morrisamb
I haven't been to Bethel's gay neighbourhood, but I am a gay neighbour...nice to make your acquaintance...
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Divorce and Separation-2/8/02 Awake!
by Mister Biggs inin the past, didn't the society always say that under .
they always cited the scripture that god is hating a .
divorce.. read the imformation above carefully.
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morrisamb
Mr. Biggs, totally agree.
My mother was an abused Catholic wife, then an abused Witness wife (same husband) and she never 'told' anyone...we children witnessed it and when we got old enough, we took her out-when I was 15! ('76...she'd still be living with him, if we hadn't)That's the real world.
My story is too complex to go into here, but in hindsight, I have learned that at any point in our time with this abusive man, if we had not "obeyed our Father" as the Witnesses command, had we turned to the worldly authorities/neighbours (read: anyone but a Witness), at the very least we would have been TAKING CONTROL OF OUR DESTINY. It doesn't mean everything would have turned out wonderfully but at the very least we would have been doing something to help ourselves instead of waiting for God's Kingdom to make it better. -
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Divorce and Separation-2/8/02 Awake!
by Mister Biggs inin the past, didn't the society always say that under .
they always cited the scripture that god is hating a .
divorce.. read the imformation above carefully.
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morrisamb
This issue is one of perhaps 2-3 reasons I had the big shipwreck of faith in '85.
I remember I was driving a car with three Witness sisters going door to door (although I am male, I certainly had a feminist streak in me even then)... I said, "If a woman is hit by her husband, she should leave him the first time...because you just know, there'll be a second.
A 30-something sister in the back seat, certainly no lily, replied, "Absolutely not! Only on the grounds of fornication." Now she was married to an unbeliever raising 3 kids. (Her husband was a great guy)
It was one of those EF Hutton Momments: everyone was silent..but for me it had much greater meaning...It seemed so un-Christlike, so cold, robotic and not the truth. -
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What Is Your Favorite Overlooked Movie?
by gilwarrior inwhat i am talking about a movie that you thought was great, but is mostly forgotten by most people today.. well, my favorite overlooked movie is "a perfect world.
" in it kevin costner is an escaped felon who escapes from prison with another felon.
they then break into a house and kidnap a boy who is a (gasp!
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morrisamb
I loved Raising Arizona...Remember when the kid stood in the middle of the street..hilarious?
I love dark humour/witty realism.
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What Is Your Favorite Overlooked Movie?
by gilwarrior inwhat i am talking about a movie that you thought was great, but is mostly forgotten by most people today.. well, my favorite overlooked movie is "a perfect world.
" in it kevin costner is an escaped felon who escapes from prison with another felon.
they then break into a house and kidnap a boy who is a (gasp!
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morrisamb
My favourite movies: Agree with others' choices of The Piano and What's up Doc? I would add:
Fargo, The Godfather I & II, All About Eve, Terms of EndearmentTo Joelbear, "can't remember a single other movie where there was actually a character that was a JW."
I hope to contribute a movie in the future. I'm working on a screenplay based on my upcoming Memoir: Father's Touch (www.fatherstouch.com)...Let me see, how many Witnesses in it..2 + 4 + 3 + 1 + 4 ... Gee, I don't want to spoil the story ...My dream director team: The Coen Brothers