Dear Mimilly I want you to know I appreciate your kind words in response to posts of mine. It meant a lot. I think you have made valuable contributions to the jwsite. I understand the need for a break. I do it ALL THE TIME!!! You got to take care of yourself first. That way you'll be clear-headed and free to help others. That's what I do. In regards to the specifics of the post that upset you. Interestingly enough, I received at 5 a.m. (about 3 weeks ago from a foreign acquaintance who I respect and trust) an email with an attachment with no hint of what was in it. I didn't hesitate for a moment to open it because of our past history. Well, the attachment was a series of photos of the most horrific scenes of abuse of children -- a case that was going to be sent to the World Tribunal -- I can't even talk about specifics. I couldn't finish it..I was nautious to the point of almost vomiting. I was also in shock. There was no preparation, no warning. Was I upset at this person? Momentarily, yes. I didn't want to see this at 5a.m. Frankly I never want to see this. I cried my eyes out when they showed the dog being poisoned by the Taliban on CNN last night! Kinda of a weak stomach with visuals but not with word stories. We're all different eh! So, I truly understand how you feel and your reaction. The original poster I'm sure never intended to upset you. Hope you'll return when you are ready. Take care, Donald aka morrisamb
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Nevermind. I'm out of here.
by Mimilly ini'm outa here.
i need a break.
all the bloody infighting and then i'm attacked for asking simon to move something that i knew was harmful to someone who was abused.
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Should I sue the Elders/WT Society (! or ?)
by morrisamb ineach victim of sexual abuse must make a lot of individual choices in their life.
to remain silent or to disclose.
to pursue charges or not.
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morrisamb
Interesting comments on my post.
Deaddaisy, I certainly don't think everyone who sues is out for money. I said that if I sued that would be my only reason. Just upfront about that. But nope, not in this life! I do think though we live in a sue-happy society now. But that's my opinion.
Tanalyst, I already have Witness orders for my book! One Witness in Sweden ordered 10 copies alone! Sure, locally, some might just be curious if they made it in print but others might be interested in the true, untold story.
It shall be interesting!
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How Women are treated in the WTS - from the Awake!
by hawkaw inbelow is a scanned article from the august 22, 1967 awake!
magazine that deals with women and why they don't hold positions of authority in the wachtower.
metatron brought this subject up a few months ago and someone was nice enough to give me the actual article.
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morrisamb
Thanks Hawkaw! I don't remember this issue (heck, I was 6 at the time!)...Glad you posted this and someone brought it back. It makes me want to vomit!
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My Disfellowshipping
by silentlambs inmy disfellowshipping
as with anyone associated with jehovahs witnesses the worst possible news anyone can have is being df.
it means a loss of everyone and everything you have known all your life.
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morrisamb
Tears welled in my eyes as I read your post Bill. I think it's inhumane the way you've been treated! I can only hope some sitting in the Kingdom Hall could see that as well!
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DID AN ELDER EVER HELP YOU?
by minimus inthere are so many horror stories about elders.
many people dislike or can't stand elders, in general.
a number here have been truly hurt by some.
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morrisamb
I've experienced both extremes and even some in the middle.
I had more than one Elder who went beyond the call of duty,
becoming a foster father for me. Unfortunately when I left, that
ended those loving relationships. It still hurts when I see them
and they ignore me. Regardless, I KNOW they still care about
me..they're just going by the rules. The one that was truly like a
Dad, told an acquaintance about me, "Only God knows what
Donald has been through. I will not judge him." I try to focus on
those positives but am not always successful.
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Guilt by association.
by seven006 innote: i will attempt to make my attitude as well as my language in regard to this subject in compliance with simon's wishes to keep the profanity at a minimum.
for those who have read my posts before you know how hard that will be for me.. i am really mad.
those gosh darn jw's have gone too far.
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Dave
Yes, one too many times. My invalid mother lives with my partner (since last sept) and I and some in the congregation she used to be associated with before she moved in with us said she was "Glorifying homosexuals" by living with us. Some said she was bad association even before she moved in because I visited her! It just infuriated me. I'd have driven her to her fricken meetings if she wanted me to. I'm not into controlling her life. I also think it's God who should judge his disciples, not his disciples!!!
Sorry you're having to go through this. Just know you're not alone!
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Abuse Myth
by gravedancer inwhen you have the "who is the poster you like least competition" i know this post will enable you to choose gravedancer as a prime candidate but tfb here goes:.
it would seem as if everyone here is convinced that the organization of jehovah's witnesses is rife with molestors and they are raping kids at every juncture and every chance they get.
perhaps with the latest attention silentlambs has been getting this issue is just more prevalent but the reactions of some seem so stooped in personal bitterness that they are willing to just blindly accuse any jw of being a molestor (even when they know nothing else about that person other than the person is a jw).. true i agree 110% that the policy of the 2 witness rule needs to be changed immediately and victims should be encouraged to go to the police.
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morrisamb
Someone recently asked me (who knows our story), the Elders didn't know you were abused for that long did they?
"Three years. But isn't one day, one day too many?"
I for one am thankful there are not more victims within Jehovah's Witness families than there are! Who'd want to make the number seem larger? Whenever I talk of Witnesses or am questioned about it, I never portray the Witnesses as "sexual abusers". My god, Witnesses can't even have premarital sex! It's the monsters who used the Society's system. And it's Elders who have a responsiblility to get themselves educated! I also think the Elders should never be talking to a child without a female present. Aren't most molesters of the male gender for godsake? There insensitivity is limitless but they have a lot of company. Society as a whole needs to get with the program!
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EYES ARE WINDOW TO THE SOUL: re: CONNIE CHUNG
by morrisamb inhaven't been able to post until now!.
when you look into the eyes of the two young women who were on connie chung, there is no question they are telling the truth.
my witness mother said before it started, "not that again.
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Minimus, I don't need to ask her. Her daughter was abused. At least my mother believes victims and will not shun her disf/diss children no matter what her Elders tell her!
Unfortunately the onus is always on the victim to prove she/he was abused. Shows like Dateline, and now Connie Chung do make a difference. Victims will no longer be silenced.
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EYES ARE WINDOW TO THE SOUL: re: CONNIE CHUNG
by morrisamb inhaven't been able to post until now!.
when you look into the eyes of the two young women who were on connie chung, there is no question they are telling the truth.
my witness mother said before it started, "not that again.
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Haven't been able to post until now!
When you look into the eyes of the two young women who were on Connie Chung, there is no question they are telling the truth. My Witness mother said before it started, "Not that again." But afterwards, she said she believed the girls, adding, "The congregation will disfellowship that creep!" Mom goes, "The Elders believed you when you told!!" I said, "That's not a point. How could they not? Four victims in one household and the molester admits to it when comfronted."
Nevertheless, could I ever relate to their experiences! It all rang true. Provide help? What help? Poo pooing the experience. No comprehension of the crime, the trauma, the need for compassion to the victim sitting before them.
During the airing, my mother made comments two other times: "Why is he talking about this? He wasn't abused?" referring to Bill; and then, near the end, "I trust in Jehovah."
I believe that my mother's reaction is similar to many Witnesses if they watched the interview. They probably won't deny those girls were abused but will rationalize that isolated incidents are being used to make Jehovah's congregation look bad.
I hope more victims will come forward to share their stories. There is power in disclosure.
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MAY I INTRODUCE MYSELF ?????
by Searchin50 inhi to anyone that reads this post; .
i am, an inactive j w have been for 11 years,& proud of it.
i was baptized in 1958, therefore led a very active life involved in, .
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morrisamb
Welcome and pleased to make your acquaintance!