Talking more to "sisters" than "brothers"..hee hee...Reminds me of that song...
If they could see me (gay) now....
my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.
Talking more to "sisters" than "brothers"..hee hee...Reminds me of that song...
If they could see me (gay) now....
steve and i attended our very last meeting this evening.
i wrote a thread a few weeks ago about our elder visit and their decision to announce that we were disassociated.
they agreed to wait until we returned from our vacation so i could tell my grandma who still attends via phone link and so she wouldn't have to be alone in her devastation.
Sorry for this late posting...just saw your thread now...
great pics of you two...I have read Mulan's posts here for quite some time and I have found her balanced, kind and very giving. No wonder she's proud of you!
I too was disassociated around ten years after never having attending a single meeting (other than one funeral)...The Elder who called said I was still considered a Witness. I said, "I haven't been one in ten years." He repeated himself. It was because I had written an article in the paper that was pretty "out there"....Honestly it felt weird and I had no intention of going to the meeting, but I totally think the process is absurd!
i have been researching the greyhound breed.
does any one have a italian greyhound or greyhound?
my application is in for a retired or rescue dog.
All your pics are just great! I love animals so much!! I'd have a zoo if I could....we have 3 siamese cats, Kyle, Bach-Pierre and Maxine --the last picture on this web site page is our baby Maxine ---
http://www.fatherstouch.com/photos/03.htm
and we have a cockatiel name Jay!!!
hi gang aliittle post about a great late band: and i want to know which one of these songs best describe your life now as an ex jw or slowly fading one or whatever : the songs the songs are we are the champions-----another one bites the dust-----fat ---bottomed girls-------bicycle--------we will rock you----somebody to love-------you make me live ,,,,,, well there it is give me your take on these great oldie songs ok thanks alot just me sing ing my way to a better life .......
Hee hee...that's funny...at first I thought you asked which group best describes us!
Bohemian Rhapsody...
sign me, more than just your average QUEEN --
oh forgot to add .... lover
here is a pic of me and wildturkey when we were dating, i was 17 and he was 18,,,, not a great picture quality , it was snowing.
i will never forget that day playing in the snow.
if ya want to go way back , here is my baby pic,,,,,,,,and yeah , i had my mouth wide open laughing even back then!hehe .
I'm not computer literate...I have to rely on my master..I mean webmaster, Maurice ...he put together a gallery of photos on my web site...yeah, photos of my youth...starting here..
just been clearing some space in my house and deciding what to get rid of.i have a whole rack of "meeting clothes" shirts , suits ties etc that i have never worn since i left.i kept a few shirts and a couple of suits just in case i need them sometime.what a load of money those clothes most have cost me.one extra good reason for leaving, and think of all those dry cleaning bills you'll miss as well.bad luck if you work in an office.
Good question..actually it made me laugh...I haven't been to a meeting since '85 but I kept my horrible clothes until my partner went through my closet (no pun intended) and said, "This has got to go!"
I have a photo of my baptism suit in '78 on the fourth page of my web site..here's the exact link...Ps. the glasses had to go to!!!
this isn't about the running of silentlambs.org.
this is about the people themselves who have been abused.
this is from someone who has never suffered from abuse, who is trying to understand the needs of those who have.. how can those who have not been abused help those of us here who have, and what can we do that would be really useful to those persons?.
Thanks for asking...I don't really need anything where I'm at ...I've never felt so fricken normal in my life..I think once I got a global perspective on things, I saw how many people are suffering in so many different ways and each of those ways are equally important to the sufferers!! Comparing trauma is like comparing apples and organges. I do think it's so important to never trivialize individual experiences. I've talked to victims who've had one experience with an abuser who appear to be more traumatized than some who have been conditioned by the abuse. I too, do not consider myself a 'silentlamb' although I can appreciate the expression. I'm such a big mouth, that silence doesn't quite fit the bill at this stage of my life! I would say that I'm very wary of anyone who trys to tell me what to feel, think, say, wear, believe. Also of anyone who trys to dim my light to make theirs brighter. On the other hand, I've learned to risk so that I don't miss out on all the possibilities that life offers.
Thanks minimus! Sorry I am not a fan of science fiction...not a trecky or a next generation-er...do you remember Space 1999 or something like that with Martin Landau who went on to win an oscar for playing Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood?
Lost in Space wasn't bad 'cause it was funny..and Time Tunnel was a hoot.
Shows I love: Shows I hate:
Seinfeld Webster
I love lucy Silver Spoons
Bewitched Eight (was more than) Enough
The Mary Tyler Moore Show Dukes of Hazzard
The Dick Van Dyke Show Dallas after the Bobby isn't dead dream episode
Biography The Facts of Life
Law & Order Full House
I Dream of Jeannie Baywatch
Everybody Loves Raymond Three's Company
Maude The Jeffersons
All in The Family Wheel of Fortune
Buggs Bunny The Road Runner (felt sorry for the coyote)
SCTV Saturday Night Life (since the 90s)
Edited to add what BEANS reminded me of...I can't believe I forgot SCTV...the best!!!
Edited by - morrisamb on 5 January 2003 22:1:43
in thinking back over the years past it makes me really sad what we have come to as jehovah's witnesses.
i never thought i would ever be at this point in my life.
in doing some new year reflections i can't help but think of the people i cared about in past years.
Interesting thread...I'd rather people say what they really thought instead of being afraid of being shunned for disagreeing with the majority. We can only challenge ideas if we understand the basis for them. Although I was a victim of eleven years of sexual abuse, I don't want all molesters sent to the gallows!!
That being said, I really don't agree with some of the logic in this paragraph by Abandon:
"Pedophiles have a horrible affliction; it is impossible for them to fulfill their abberant sexual desires in a manner which is acceptable morally, legally or socially. This is why they explode and ruin lives; it's impossible for them to do otherwise. And unlike other sexual oriontations, such as heterosexual and homosexual, which are capable of being loving and consensual, their sexual oriontation is harmful and reliant upon peer pressure or force."
Having been up close and personal with a molester for 15 years (my father), I don't buy that generalization! I believe these men are the greatest actors the earth has ever witnessed! There is a whole lot more choice involved in their actions that the public gives them credit for! I believe some of them can change their actions -- but mere mortals cannot determine that change by their exterior behaviour alone...ie. my father has been born again so many times it isn't funny. He needs to get born-again after an offense to cleanse himself of his sins. Or is that for the public's benefit?
Those who have experienced the monsters first hand know that an abuser is more than just a label. Some are masters of chameleon -like change. They can be a clown, a friend, a minister one minute and then hedonistic, barbaric the next. Innate? Learned behaviour? Choice?
The answers aren't simple, but we must keep asking the questions.