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ELDER: "In case he has a change of heart.&...

by morrisamb in

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my witness mother received her regular visit from an elder (she lives with me)...she told me he said they have something new, where the circuit overseer could talk to disfellowshipped ones [i'm disassociated 7 years, out 17] if the disf.

one so wishes, and be invited to attend the meetings.. mom said, "donald just wants to be left alone.".

elder: "jehovah knows peoples' hearts.

morrisamb

Excellent, Dude!!!

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Book Review by ex-Witness in Belgium

by morrisamb in

my book father's touch has been reviewed by an ex-witness in belgium in flemish and translated in english: i'll place the english translation here: [anyone requesting the flemish version, please email me: [email protected]] .

review by: julien lippens, chairman, sas [study and advice group sects]; focus magazine .

language: english; pages: 339, paperback; isbn 1-58982-112-2. .

morrisamb

My book Father's Touch has been reviewed by an ex-Witness in Belgium in Flemish and translated in English: I'll place the English translation here: [anyone requesting the Flemish version, please email me: [email protected]]

Review by: Julien Lippens, Chairman, SAS [Study and Advice Group Sects]; Focus Magazine

Language: English; Pages: 339, paperback; ISBN 1-58982-112-2

Author: Donald D'Haene

A new book has just been published on a subject that is now very topical. It's the autobiography of a boy that was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. The religious ideas of his father could not prevent the reality that he was sexually abusing his four children.

It's a moving book that allows a deep view inside a household that is oppressed by a dominant father and that bears a large secret for many years.

The parents of Daniel are from West Flanders and emigrated in their younger years to Canada, around early 1957. In October 1957 father D'Haene gets involved with the Jehovah's Witnesses. He accepts their beliefs and the couple joins the Witnesses. As from the early stages of the marriage it is clear that the man is a brutal despot. The mother humbly submits to his character. Later on it will be proven that the combination of a dominant man and the belief of the Witnesses is a deadly combination.

"Don't ask questions, Donald; just do it 'cause I say so," Papa says.

We only meet people of our own religion. I hear conversations about the Truth. Gods love for us, sin, preaching, strong and weak Christians, men lead in prayer, women remain silent, children born in sin. Often I couldn't find my sleep. Bedtime songs are a waste of time; the world nears its end. No Santa Claus our Easter Bunny to look forward to.

"God loves you, Donald," Mama says.

It isn't a happy family.

I see mama cringe when Papa shouts at her. Mama and papa shouting at each other. Papa is slapping my mama. Mama is crying, holding her face and looking sadly into my eyes.

Donald writes:

My father kept us isolated from the rest of the world. We never developed normal relationships. He would not allow us to bring friends home from school He decided who would visit our world.

I did not have contact with the outside world until I went to school. Anyone who wasn't a Jehovah's Witness was bad association.

The abuse of Donald by his father starts when he is four. Father plays the game with him. Donald does not understand there is something wrong about it; he is too young and thinks it is normal.

Papa says all Papas play this game with their children. Mamas aren't supposed to know because they'd get jealous. They'd stop us from playing it. The game is the only time Papa talks to me or pays me any attention. I will never tell.

The father abuses his own children, one after another, and in the meantime, he creates in a subtle way, the impression that it will never be different. He improves his psychological influence while learning from the childrens behavior.

"We're going to the garbage dump. Ronny will enjoy it."

Papa drives the car off the main dirt road.

"I want to show you something."

"What?"

Papa unzips his pants and pull out his thing.

"What are you doing?"

"Were going to play a game."

"Oh, no, were not! I don't want to play this game!"

"You have to!"

Ronny starts crying.

"Stop crying. Give me your hand. Now go up and down!"

Ronny cries uncontrollably. Ronny leaves himself. He floats out of the car.

Papa is worried Ronny will tell.

"Don't you dare to tell Mama about this. I gave you life and I can take it away."

Afterwards, Ronny lays his head against the car window looking outside.

This way father learned a new receipe: To introduce the child very early in the Game and then there is no resistance. Insist that the secret of the game is very important. The child will be eager to play the game.

Father's Touch will have a strong impact on its reader. There were many times I had to put the book aside and think things over. Honestly, I was shocked at how a parent could do such evil things to his own children.

Although the book focuses primarily on incest, there is a lot more to this story. Father's Touch is also about a social and psychological system gone awry, sending people deeper into their failures; a father whose lust for power is uncontrollable, and a mother driven into submission. It is about a religious system that prescribes rules for every aspect of peoples lives, to the point that it abandons Donald and his family to a psychopath.

In the end, those responsible in their community knew what was going on but failed to take the necessary steps to help the children. On the contrary, they told them to respect their father.

Donald's story is the voice of many children -- children that even today, suffer from a system in which community and church leaders refuse to see or admit they are wrong.

Anyone who reads this book will be deeply touched in their heart. I can only admire that little boy that became such a nice person because of his own strength and persistence. He is not a victim - he is a survivor!

The enormous amount of information, and the look inside the family and their religious community largely compensates for the small effort it will require Belgians to get used to the Canadian English dialect with which the book is written.

Edited by - morrisamb on 9 November 2002 0:52:20

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ELDER: "In case he has a change of heart.&...

by morrisamb in

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my witness mother received her regular visit from an elder (she lives with me)...she told me he said they have something new, where the circuit overseer could talk to disfellowshipped ones [i'm disassociated 7 years, out 17] if the disf.

one so wishes, and be invited to attend the meetings.. mom said, "donald just wants to be left alone.".

elder: "jehovah knows peoples' hearts.

morrisamb

My Witness mother received her regular visit from an Elder (she lives with me)...She told me he said they have something new, where the Circuit overseer could talk to disfellowshipped ones [I'm disassociated 7 years, out 17] if the disf. one so wishes, and be invited to attend the meetings.

Mom said, "Donald just wants to be left alone."

Elder: "Jehovah knows peoples' hearts. Well, in case Donald has a change of heart..."

At first this bugged me because I took it to mean... if Donald's heart changes: translation: from bad to good. Imperfect as my heart is, I think it's just fine thank you very much...but I don't think he meant that..I mean, of course, he thinks it...but I don't think he'd say it to my mother.

The truth: I'd rather be dropped in a vat of acid than talk to some strange man called a "circuit servant". You see, I'm in touch with my feelings....I don't talk to strangers that don't treat me like an equal...

Nevertheless, every time these things happens, it just reminds of my "Toast" existance as an ex-Witness. I'm just human..even though I've never been happier in my life, having grown up a Witness....it's such a part of you..such reminders don't make my day..you know what I mean.

Hey, I know all of you know what I mean!!!

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Where are you from?

by Rado Vleugel in

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my site (

http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/

) has been visited by people from 97 different countries.

morrisamb

Thanks for contributing to a sense of community by asking your question....

My family was born in Belgium, immigrated to Canada in '57 and then I was born in St. Thomas, Ontario...I now live in London, Ontario

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Peodophiles, Dr. Phil and ....

by morrisamb in

dr. phil is an excellent program...great educational tool...yes many molesters abuse both boys and girls because it's the asexual, compliant element of a child that attracts them.

my molester abused both, more boys than girls but preferred girls.

go figure!.

morrisamb

Dr. Phil is an excellent program...great educational tool...yes many molesters abuse both boys and girls because it's the asexual, compliant element of a child that attracts them. My molester abused both, more boys than girls but preferred girls. Go figure!

The other interesting point in the show...My mother and I were watching it and mother said, what a evil, creep that molester is...I said, you know what, at the very least he admitted to Dr. Phil HE IS TOTALLY REPONSIBLE FOR THE ABUSE, THAT HE MANIPULATED EVERYONE TO GET WHAT HE WANTED.

The truth is few molesters admit to the acts let alone to the behaviour that goes along with it. The Children's Aid Society worker I know who handled my father a few years ago about another abusive situation, told me, my father wouldn't admit to anything, deflected the conversation to what he wanted to talk about it, (How he was wronged); wouldn't acknowledge on any level any of his earlier victims were victims of a crime or had ANYTHING To recover from. He was totally narcissitic. Hey no surprise to me...I lived with him!

It is my experience that the general public can be easily hoodwinked by a molester [for those interested and who haven't read his open letter in response to my book, go here: http://www.fatherstouch.com/molester.htm. You're in for an eye-opener!]

I can't tell you how many people have been fooled by my "born-again" father..people who've told me off for the work I do on educating the public...I'm a whinny little brat to many of them...of course, my book, Father's Touch, seems to have a created a global shift...Now scores of people are expressing sympathy to my mother, siblings and I.

Strange that I had to write a book to clue people into the machinations of "the monster". Many people here warned me I shouldn't be expecting any apologies from people [including Witnesses] who mis-treated my family because they "knew better". So far they are right...of those we personally know, only people who didn't treat us badly in the first place have expressed support. The amount of strangers expressing support in unbelievable!!!

Things that make you go hmmmm.

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DR. PHIL takes on Pedophiles

by wednesday in

i just finished watching dr. phil on ch 11 in dallas,tx area.

this is a cbs station.it was chilling what the predators told him.

there were interviews with victims .

morrisamb

Thank you for posting this..I had wanted to watch it and forgot...it's on again on some station 5pm EST. I'm catching most of it..fascinating and doesn't pull any punches!!!

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SHE LEFT ME!

by Yerusalyim in

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my wife, liza, came home from work this morning (she was doing the 3rd shift thing) and said she was leaving me.

this afternoon at 1 pm i took her to the bus station.

at 4:20 pm she was off to nyc.

morrisamb

Yeru

You're right -- I don't pray but I'm sorry you're going through this and I hope you take care of yourself!!

PS.

I've liked your posts here!

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Is there something at most people know that I dont

by gilwarrior in

everytime i get mad over something, all my feelings just come out.

today, i had a really bad day.

(if you read my last post, you know what i am talking about.

morrisamb

Just got back from Las Vegas on Monday. I'm sorry you are having a difficult time. Hang in there. I found I had a better time in Las Vegas when I wasn't sitting in a casino. I thought the sights, sounds and feel of Las Vegas were wonderful. It was like a trip to another planet. We're going back next april to see Celine Dion

Have you went to the free water show set to music (pink panther theme) on the main drag (Belagio?)...that will put a smile on your face..I believe it's either every 15 minutes or every half hour.

Take care of yourself.

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The "Rev" hates my book!!!!

by morrisamb in

does anyone know this the rev?

i think he's posted on [email protected] before and i had a disagreement with him.

i think he and my father would get along.

morrisamb

Another response to the "REV" Hi Donald, the Rev is an asshole! He's the only one who's riding the horse in the opposite direction. I can't stand some of these "Christians". Being a Christian asshole still leaves him to be an asshole! What an asshole!

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The "Rev" hates my book!!!!

by morrisamb in

does anyone know this the rev?

i think he's posted on [email protected] before and i had a disagreement with him.

i think he and my father would get along.

morrisamb

Thanks for the feedback..what makes this more absurd is I describe an actual incident of rape in my book. If he indeed has read my book, he's one sicko, let me tell you!

Here is a letter I received from someone who HAS read my book and The Rev's Review this morning... wow, such venom. I was interested in his conviction that children who are sexually abused never enjoy the feelings that go along with the abuse. Very black and white. His belief that, you are abused only if you hate what is happening to you. When children are so young and an adult tells them this is good, pays attention to them, how are they able to discern that what is occurring is harmful or not right. He obviously has very little understanding of the mind of a child. Whoa!!! Lesleigh

Edited by - morrisamb on 22 October 2002 9:46:43