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  Joe Satriani, Palace Theater, Columbus OH 10/27/04

  by DanTheMan in

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  i have an extra ticket if anybody on the board is interested in going with me.

  unfortunately i'm the only joe satch fan i know (in my area) and i *really* don't want to go to the show by myself..

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  Hi Dan! Give my hubby a call, he would probably hang out with you...unless you were looking for a date..then carry on.

  Are you ever going to move to Cincy?
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

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  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  Dude, your first mistake was addressing her as "woman".

  I am "woman", hear me ROAR!
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  woman what happens when your kids find out from some other kid that santa dosen't exist
  

  and they confront you on it, or when you do finally break it to them then

  they go into this what else are you hiding from me mood.

  kids don't like being lied to period, even from mommy!!!

  when I was growing I felt sorry for kids like yours.

  then when they get older you suffer

  tell them the truth or else watch that additude of not listening to you grow because their trust of you was abused.

  Don't feel sorry for my children, if what you say ever happens...I love them enough to get them the best therapy money can buy...LOL! I doubt that will be necessary since I can't recall even one adult suffering from believing in Santa as a child.

  Wow, I feel empathy when I see children with tattered clothes and worn out shoes, and children that show obvious neglect or sexual abuse...not for kids that believe in Santa.

  Are people's priorities that messed up that they are more consumed with the effects that fantasy "may" have on their children then with real problems children may face?
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  Thank you Simon. Maybe it just sounds better when you say it because you aren't arrogant and condescending.

  You've summed up everything I've been trying to get across and you did it without offending anybody.

  Actually Simon has been offending, so far he has said that my children are "stupid" if they believe in Santa and that I am "dumb" if I teach them that Santa is real.

  By the way Simon, I do teach my kids about Santa and they believe he is real, but I have never blackmailed or bribed (emotionally or otherwise) them...they just believe the whole fantasy. Actually, I never though I would teach my children about Santa, my oldest just was taken in by the holiday cartoons and movies and I just found it enjoyable to play along. She is now seven and she still believes!

  I take great pride in raising my children. I think they are beautiful and well adjusted for their ages. I am more worried that they may grow up and get mixed up with the wrong crowd, start doing drugs or have babies at 13 or 14 years old, than if they grow up believing in UFO's. I take the necessary precautions to stop the real dangers that may affect my children rather than spend my time nit-picking the harmless things.

  That is just my opinion though, I am sure not all here will agree.

  Michelle (of the "I hope to raise great kids" crowd)
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  God doesn't want you to use Crest or Tide!!!

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/17/news/fortune500/pg_gay_rights/index.htm?cnn=yes

  conservatives urge p&g boycott.

  christian groups go after crest, tide due to company's opposition to cincinnati anti-gay statute.. september 17, 2004: 3:01 pm edt .

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  I love Cincinnati, but it definitely has a reputation of being conservative. It as even been jokingly referred to as "Sin-Cinnati" because of the way the city leaders act as moral gatekeepers.

  Michelle of the "going out to buy some more Tide and Crest class"
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  XW,

  I am still laughing from your reply... You really made your brother get up on the roof?...LOL! Ask him if he is available this coming Christmas...my seven year old is getting too smart for me!
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  Terry,

  I have to agree with "princess" that you have a very patronizing tone to your replies.

  Sorry I missed your own posted definition of poison, but regardless that wasn't the point I was trying to make. My reply was in reference to Euphemism's post...

  I enjoy your posts and have the highest respect for your intellect. But if you can't see the difference between an honest discussion of opinions and telling people that they are "poisoning" their children, I personally don't feel that there's much to gain by discussing this with you.

  I did read your original post and those thereafter, and I still believe that your subject title implies that fantasy is a poison.

  I suppose in your need to look for something to critisice, you overlooked my other post in answer to your comment...

  I'm looking for the reason WHY you think not telling a child the truth is a BETTER idea.

  My reply was that telling my children the truth about Santa would destroy the fantasy. I don't think fantasy is wrong or that it damages a child.

  CZAR commented...

  You specifically framed at least part of the discussion as to the effects of the JW "fairytale" on everybody here

  I agree, Terry you did do that...at least I felt the same way when reading your post.

  Also, in your reply to gentlyferal comment...

  gentlyferal says: You raise the most hackles here with your repeated assumption that the Santa Claus story actually does harm. You haven't proved that to be so.

  your commented with "Lying to children does no harm? And I have to PROVE that?"

  Yeah, you should prove it...that is the whole point of your discussion, isn't it? Actually he was asking you to prove that the Santa Claus story actually does harm, and I don't believe many here equate telling their children a harmless fairytale to lying.

  Wow, I really do feel like I am defending my beliefs to a JW once again!
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  Terry, your post topic reads "WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?"

  You implied that fantasy is a poison.

  poison 1a : a substance that through its chemical action usually kills, injures, or impairs an organism b (1) : something destructive or harmful (2) : an object of aversion or abhorrence- Merrian-Webster Dictionary
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  WHAT IF WE DIDN'T POISON CHILDREN'S MINDS WITH FANTASY?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every baby born seems to have a giant helping of fairy stories, talking animals, outrageous exaggerations parading as "fact" and an endless stream of cartoons, science fiction and make-believe.

  the laws of nature and physics are violated every few seconds in film and tv!

  is it surprising that children are not only ignorant of how things really work-but, they don't have patience and an appetite for fact when they get to the schoolroom.

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  I'm looking for the reason WHY you think not telling a child the truth is a BETTER idea.

  Telling my children the truth about Santa would destroy the fantasy. I don't think fantasy is wrong or that it damages a child.

  Are you equating starvation in 3rd World countries with telling our children the difference between make-believe and non-ficition?

  Why is the FACT there is a make-believe Santa a "harsh truth"?

  Wow, is that what you got out of my post? I guess I should rephrase, how about...There are alot worse things in this world than teaching my children harmless fantasies of Santa, etc. I appreciate that my children can grow up with a little imagination than live the with the harsh realities of less fortunate ones. Or easier said..."We see the world not as it is but as we are." -Anais Nin
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  I love Jehovah's Witnesses...

  by FMZ in

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  2. friends

  yes, that's right.. i love them.

  i love everyone.... "love your neighbor as yourself".... does it specify which neighbors?

  the good ones?

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  I think most JWs are genuinely good people, just mislead. Last night I was invited, for the first time in over eight years, to a Euchre party at my mom and dad's with several of their JW friends. They were all very nice, even though most knew that I had openly spoke against the JW religion in the past. I have just learned to let go of alot of things over time and just let people be who they want to be. If they think they are happy, who am I to disagree. Now if you made the same post about 5 or 6 years ago, I probably would have responded quite differently then.