I have a dear friend in this position. Her family line will die out with her and her siblings...they all followed the party line. She expressed the same feelings as the wife of the elder. She pioneered her whole adult life, and hated it, but did it because it was expected. She and her husband see themselves aging alone and it depresses them.
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I feel sorry for just about everyone else.. even the elder's wife
by ohnightdivine ini've been busy with with being busy after knowing ttatt.
after this sunday's meeting i was invited over by one congregation elder's wife to an afternoon coffee.
we're not very close because of the age gap but we've "known" each other for so many years now, being in the same congregation.. she is like the anchor of the group.
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Does this count as Nazi collaboration?
by Julia Orwell ina jw friend of mine visited the site of auschwitz-berkenau and bought a book on jws in auschwitz which documents which jws were in the camp, which ones died, and what they did while they were there.
known as honest and industrious workers, a lot of them, especially women, were employed as domestic help in the homes of the ss commanders.
this is well documented.
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PaintedToeNail
Being domestic help and watching children did not contribute to the war effort. I agree with Syme, there is no reason not to feel true human compassion for the incredibly unfortunate people who were enslaved, starved, tortured, gassed and incinerated...
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Saving a Life With A Blood Transfusion True Story
by Watchtower-Free ingood news for once saw this on aawa sitesaving my life with a blood transfusion.
third, i knew they would bring the elders with them.. i finally called home and told my parents what was going on.
i told my parents to tell the elders they could do whatever they felt they needed to do but i was not going to meet with them.
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PaintedToeNail
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Entire Body of ELDERS make NEWS with GB. more news on FB
by Jack Miller inhttp://www.mcalesternews.com/policecourts/x409169231/da-jehovah-witness-church-concealed-molestation-crimes.
if you have a facebook account you can read more details that wt has published about one of these elders involved in this illegal cover up.. https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/permalink/10151981880490835/.
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I usually post the links to these stories on Facebook, recently I was asked why I would post such a link....it shows that JW's in good standing do in fact read them....they don't like them, but they are reading them.
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Pioneer Encouragement - "You can sit in the back room"
by 4thgen inlast night one of the pioneers stopped by on her way home from the pioneer meeting.
she has always been very kind and i believe she is acted out of concern, however her visit was unsettling.
she mentioned that all the pioneers were counseled to invite everyone they know inactive or those who has had life has got them down to come to (a special?
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PaintedToeNail
The pressure is mounting for the pioneers and elders to increase their performance numbers. The WTBTS must realize how depressing it must be for those in 'the full-time service' to almost never have 'productive' bible studies, so now a 'new field' is opened to them, where they can get that 'feel good' emotion of helping someone return to the fold. It will make them think they actually are accomplishing something. It is imperative that the WTBTS numbers improve on their yearly stats.
Love the charity work reference! That must really have put her in confusion...'how can they be performing charity work and be happy. You can only be happy if your charity work is preaching...must be a lie that they are happy...where is my Paxil?'
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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PaintedToeNail
The WTBTS will probably go back to the OT and the example of King David. When he was old and ancient, the Jews found the most beautiful woman in the land, Abishad, and forced her to lay in his 'bosom' to keep him warm. They never had sex. When David died, Abishag was considered as property, chattels, concubine or wife and possesion of her would have laid claim to the throne. Therefore, marriage without sex is still considered marriage before Jehovah...IMHO...
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Did You Ever Learn Anything From The Meetings?
by minimus ini found the meetings to be especially boring from the late 1980s on.
before that, we actually tried to make people want to listen.
the meetings were pretty interesting.
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PaintedToeNail
My girl friend and I invented a sign language so we could chat with each other during the meeting. If we whispered to each other, my mom would tell us to be quiet and listen. So we came up with a plan to communicate with each other by other means. We were 10 and 11 at the time.
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Child intimidated into no sports activities- suggestions please
by 4thgen inmy ex is an active witness.
i've been endeavoring to socialize my child ad best as possible.
he loves sports in school, but has been intimidated by his father that after school activities are evil.
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If you feel his father has intimidated him into being afraid because of evilness, you could ask your son questions. "Do you know anyone who is bad that plays sports?" "If playing sports is bad, why does Daddy watch sports on TV? Does that make sense to you that he would be watching people who were bad?" and so on.
Get him to start thinking for himself.
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delusional until the end- must read
by nowwhat? inin our area, we have a 78 year old well known brother known for his stout faithfulness whose wife just died.
his life story is jw textbook.. pioneered for decades, went to bethel, where he was a mid range heavy.
then his wife got accidently pregnant so they had to leave around 1980.. known in the area for being the top man on the rbc, also in charge of the money at conventions and assemblies and just about every responsibility you can think of.
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PaintedToeNail
And yet the WTBTS always is talking about honoring the elderly and give the example of faithful Anna, who was never missing from the temple...can't you just see her getting the boot from Bethel?
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Ran into JW's manning a table/booth at the beach.
by PaintedToeNail incame across 2 of these 'booths' in 2 days.
one at the int'l airport we landed at (hubby asked directions from them, they were knowledgable about the airport and very nice) and the other at a pier on the beach...hubby had to race over and say hi to them and i was standing there.
the 'brother' was an arrogant boob.
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PaintedToeNail
It was interesting to see eventhe first couple, they were wedged between a couple other booths of some sort and were chatting away together. When my husband poke to them they looked rather startled, almost as if someone approaching them was unheard of. They were really nice and down to earth.
4thgen-They do look that ridiculous!