PaintedToeNail

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  An excellent, very civil debate between an atheist and a JW.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stumbled upon this video while doing my periodic youtube search of the keyword "jehovah".

  in the video a jw (actually two jws, but only one does most of the speaking) debate an atheist.

  the atheist is a mild-mannered iranian who at first seems deceptively easy and clueless (i think it has to do with the fact that english is not his first language), but soon proves he's no walkover - calmly, mildly and civilly.

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  Interesting that he is an atheist considering his religious background. He must feel safe from ISIS!
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  How many JW Families do you know of who hate each other and shun each other? "Religion of Hatred" 1.a

  by The1975Blues in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you were attending the kingdom halls did you see feuds and hate filled wars against members working on the new personality?

  how strong were the elders in keeping their halls filled with love not hatred, jesus said everyone would be filled with love, there was no room for hatred in jesus christ's view of how christians ought to act!

  when you see children shunning parents, parents shunning children, aunts, uncles, grandma and grandpas displaying qualities jesus said were "instant tickets to hell" why do the jws keep attending the meetings if their filled with hate?

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  There is a prominent family in the Poconos, Pennsylvania that sued each other in court over the farm land they owned jointly. The mother and one son suing the other son. It made the local paper. It was withing the last 15 years.
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  A Renewed Friendship After 10 Years

  by confuzzlediam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a little background first....i have been dating my boyfriend for a year.

  both of us are disfellowshipped.

  we attended the same congregation 7+ years ago when we were both married.

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  PaintedToeNail

  Very nice post. Thanks for sharing.
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  planting seed with jw carpet salesman.

  by prologos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  p's remark to sales man: "you must feel right at home here like the israelites who lived on carpets and inside curtains, even the tabernacle?

  layers of it ---".

  p: "to think that millions trekking for 40 years did not leave a trace, nothing ever turned up?

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  PaintedToeNail

  Walking through the ruins of Native American villages in New Mexico and Arizona, there was evidence of population. Broken pottery and arrow heads littering the ground. Pictographs on the walls. Weirs to catch water. In the ruin of a house, when I sunk my hand into the ground, there were dried out beans. There were only a few dozen people to maybe 300 living in these areas at that time, but those few people left their mark on the desert. It seems over 2 million over a 40 year periods would leave something. Prologos, your argument was a reasonable one.
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  "Deep Down , He Knows That It is The Truth"

  by BluesBrother in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this phrase i heard again at the weekend when a diehard dub was discussing his non believing, but much loved son.

  "it is just that..... [insert any excuse here].

  it is something that they all say about us, yet nothing could be further from the truth.

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  I hear my own mother say that all the time...
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  Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

  " twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

  she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

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  snare-Very well done! She is definitely going to be thinking about what you said to her and how her position is untenable. I'm glad you were respectful, it was that much more powerful. Your use of scripture was excellent. I wish I was as good as you are at getting a point across...
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  PaintedToeNail

  The fall of Saigon. It marked the end of the Vietnam War. It was the largest helicopter evacuation in history. Including 'Operation Babylift'. My daughter and I toured the USS Midway in San Diego a year ago and there were pictures of this event.
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  What percentage of the population are gay?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the long debate on the question of gay marriage, there have been many competing answers to the question of, "how many people are gay?".

  a very anti-gay christian minister in sydney, the reverend fred nile, (who is also a member of the state parliament) claims that the percentage is as low as 1%.. some university (u.of new south wales) research in sydney has suggested 5%, but the authors of the study cautioned that there was a problem in the fact that an unknown number of respondents would likely not admit to being gay.. there are other problems in asking the question.

  for example, what does being gay mean?

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  sparrow-Just a question, with no malice or sarcasm intended, would you find it very interesting and touching if a hetro married couple had one member having sex with a member of the opposite sex or would you call it adultery? I saw the same documentary and wondered if the women would've stayed if the person their husband was attracted to was another woman.

  fulltime-This is an interesting topic, I just searched for the same info yesterday. It must be on a lot of minds right now.
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  Tax-exempt Status of Churches and the Gay Marriage Decision

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it will be interesting to see what will happen with the "beloved" 501c3 tax exempt status which the churches hold so dearly onto.

  the first-century christians met in homes.

  they did not have exemption from taxes to the governments.

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  The JW's don't need to worry about the Gay Marriage issue. For them it is a non-issue. They merely need to require anyone who is being married in a KH to be a baptized witness. End of problem. It was already in the rule book that both parties need to be either baptized witnesses or a progressive bible study with both parties who wished to become baptized, but their living situation was at odds with JW teachings.
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  The Verdict: God is Not Good.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if this video has been posted before here or not, but it is a powerful scene.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irfn2gdi.

  i haven't watched the entire movie yet, but from this scene alone, i will be..

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  I showed this to Hubby last night. He watched it to the end, which surprised me. He had no objections to what was said. After it was over, he held my hand and said something to the effect of 'I asked my dad about why the Israelites were sent into Egypt in the first place'. This clip really, really made him THINK. Something he is uncomfortable with.

  I was eager to have him watch this, as today is his RC. He was racing around getting ready, but at the same time, seemed reluctant to leave. When our 7 y.o. asked him to stay for breakfast, he did. He didn't leave home until about 11:00. making him late. I think that if he wouldn't of seen this clip, he would've been much more eager to leave and wouldn't have stayed when being asked by our child.