following is the response of a jw to the information regarding the un/ngo status of the watchtower society.
it seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:.
andrew,.
Your friend is misled. He makes a case based upon prgmatism.
This issue does not concern itself with pragmatism. If pragmatism is a valid excuse then why couldn't the brothers in the 2nd world war sign the form of release? They could have then done much more preaching work!! Why didn't the brothers in Malawi agree to the registration cards? It would have allowed them to do more preaching?
gimme a break!!!
when i sit at a ca and the bro comes out and reads the financial report it is alwasy in the red (deficit).
then i ask myself: "if we own this building, the parking area, and there is no food being served; how in the world can we have a deficit?
" typically, the deficit is in the range of $5000 and $7000.
Why is it that whenever there is a surplus at assemblies(at the end) they send it to the society? Then next assembly they run short and make an announcement and everyone gives to them...
Then they send that surplus to the society again...
I used to get so pissed off that steam would come out of my ears!!
following the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
Hawk,
I told him to call the UN. He said he will take the other route and ask Bethel to clarify it for him. I will let you know.
following the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
No credit is due to me - it is due to Hawk and Dung Beetle and Mac. They have worked very hard and used many resources on this.
I am totally a beneficiary of their efforts.
may you all have peace!.
once again, i have received a 'writing' on my heart, which i am directed to share with any and all who will 'receive' it.. for many years, the wtbts and others have taught the "nephilim" to be the offspring of angels who had relations with the daughters of men, half-breed beings that wreaked havoc in a violent way in the earth during the days of noah, just prior to the flood.
that, dear ones... is an error... and a lie.. by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, that is in me by means of christ, i say to you that the "nephilim"... are spirit creatures, ancient beings... 'of old'... princes from the spirit realm, the 'wicked spirit forces'... that came to the earth to 'fell' earthling man in the days of noah.. these being are those that i saw standing to the left of my father's throne, shrouded in darkness, and 'egging' on the 'battle' between to the two brilliant cherubs on the ark, the 'arkangels', which i related to you previously on h20.
Shelby are you a Star Trek Fan?
I heard the nephilim were like the Klingons around Uranus
my marijuana-induced short term memory loss won't let me read the various web sites about ayn rand and objectivism.. could someone give me a brief synopsis of what this is about?.
thanks,.
mike pence
I am a keen supporter of objectivism.
Perhaps this link (same site different page) is better
http://www.objectivism.org/objectivism/pobs.html
following is the response of a jw to the information regarding the un/ngo status of the watchtower society.
it seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:.
andrew,.
Andy,
Ask him if he believes the society lied when they agreed to the TERMS of association then....
That's the same as saying individual dubs can register with the local catholic church if it makes them more effective in their ministry because they will be regarded as more mainstream.
Or it is like a dub attenting the Christmas party in their community - because it will make them seem more palatable as a JW and their message will be better received.
How many more similar lines of reasoning do they want? We can come up with them all day.
following the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
Had enough,
Questions From Readers Nov 1999 WT - I think its Nov 1 (I dont have it here).
There is now a 1999 CD available
i will let you all hang who ever the heck wrote this crap.
november 8, 2001 awake page 9: some battered women may need to seek assistance from the authorities.
at times, a point of crisis-such as intervention of the police-can cause an abusive man to see the seriousness of the action.. page 12: should the battered wife leave her husband?
Bridgette,
Thanks for your response. I agonized over whether I should even post with regard to this subject as I know it is such an emotional one and to be totally frank I think there are no answers that can take away the hurt due to abusive male dominance as manifest so often.
Part of the discussion centered on contributing factors. I would like to take the liberty to discuss just ONE (note NOT all) reason I believe that JW men can become abusive.
The issue I am speaking about is: since pursuit of education was suppressed for so long and the male (according to Bible theory) is supposed to be the provider that so many JW males are ill equipped to compete in the working world. Many develop a chip-on-the-shoulder attitude and this can create such an additional stress on the JW male. They are not supposed to work overtime, they are accused of being materialistic if the do try and improve their lot in life, they are accused of being worse than one without faith if they do not provide adequately.
I think that then instead of turning the frustration back onto the source (their own inadequacy - caused by the rules they live under as a JW or ultimately against the organization that imposed the beliefs on them in the first place) they form a psychological love/hate relationship with the family they need to provide for.
Ever notice how many of the "poorer" elders are the hardliners and how many of those with some money tend to be more understanding (or is that just the sum of my own observation)?
following the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
Dungbeetle,
Wow!! I never had you in mind when I made my reference (it is actually the title of a very interesting book) to the "inmates running the assylum". I believe if you and Hawk were doing the leg work on this by yourselves it would be done very orderly and with great care and attention to detail.
So please accept my apology. You and Hawk were and are still doing a good job.
I do not wish to get involved in a side issue and distract you guys any further. So blame me and move on. My opinions on some of the other individuals involved persist, but nothing can be gained by expressing them any further.
It seems pretty obvious to me how the UN issue will be much more effective for convincing the average dub than the other issues mentioned in your post (yes the vile actions you spoke of are worse - but thats not the key here). The UN issue is a deliberate action taken by the "Organization". The other issues you mentioned are skirted away because when you bring them up to the ordinary dub they simply feel that it is the "pressures of this old system that cause some of the brothers to engage in those immoral acts". This is not something that can be blamed on a a fragment of the organization as an excuse by the average dub. This one makes them think!!
