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  Fallout Over The WT-UN Contraversey

  by Ranchette in

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  2. friends

  yes, fallout has already begun (literally)over the wt-un contraversey!.

  a long time jw friend of ours told my husband today that he has already disassociated himself from the organization after seeing the proof of wt's immoral affair with the beast.. this was the last straw for him.. i wonder how many others this info is going to effect this way?.

  we will see.. ranchette

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  msil

  I have begun making moves on this.

  I do not want controversy (at the UN). I want them to keep the site up so that we can direct people to "see for themselves". If their membership entry is removed it will be much harder to convince our loved ones of the adultery with the scarlet colored beast.

  I showed it to one elder and to my Dad. They are both very distraught and almost to the verge of calling it quits!!

  This is powerful - please use it wisely. We want to use it to free people not to beat the WT over the head (their decline in membership will be the worst beating they can endure).
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  msil

  Hawk,

  I would NOT do as Mad Apostate is suggesting. Do not try to make trouble for the WT with the UN.

  You do not have the necessary intelligence to win the battle yet.

  There is plenty of time to go on offensive. That time is not now, however.

  MA - you need to get a lot more savvy dude!!
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  msil

  I would encourage you all to designate ONE person and only ONE person to be contacting the UN.

  Why jeopardize your research at this point? If they get bombarded with calls they will do one of the following:

  1. not answer the calls (our research ends)
  2. revoke WT membership (before all evidence is gathered)
  2. notify the WT and give them a chance to withdraw membership (thats not good also)

  Please get organized!!! Think strategy. Don't just swarm everything that you get a chance to. The key is to be effective.

  Look what the US govt is doing right now. They gain intelligence first and then they strike. Anything to be learned there?

  Once all the intelligence is complete then you guys can go at it like a pack of dogs.....

  You can be pissed off at me for saying this but if you want maximum effect you will handle this intelligently.
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  My JW Mothers' Words Of "Love"

  by Ranchette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i just received a letter from my mom and i dont know how to describe my feelings at this time.

  i thought id share parts of it with you and see what yall think.

  i will delete names and add my own words in parenthesis to describe whom shes talking about.. after a few lines of small talk she says this..........i do want to tell you, since (you and your husband) have rejected the truth, i am so glad (your son) is not old enough to join or be drafted into the military.

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  msil

  Ranchette,

  I find it disturbing that some of the other posters take the letter which your Mom sent to you and almost chide her love as hate. While we might disagree with the content we know that she is just living in accord with her beliefs. These beliefs, as we know, are based on fear and she is expressing this fear. She firmly believes that you are now "condemned" in accord with what she has been conditioned to believe.

  This does NOT minimize her love. When a mother shows love it is the most precious emotion in the whole world. Please try to see that due to her misguided belief system she is also a victim - her fear of you experiencing hurt is causing distress to her. The fact that she can write you about it shows her love to you. she is not trying to hurt you - she is trying to protect someone she loves from the things she fears.

  All you can do is reciprocate the love, while continuing in mild ways to help her see her fears are not based on reality. If you push her away or treat her as some posters would have you do then she will just be hurt even more. She is not evil, she is mislead. She is acting as any loving mother does. Continue to reciprocate the love and continue to do your part in helping her to become free from the evil organization controlling her beliefs.
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  Battered Women 8/8/01

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am stunned.. with all the effort to try and make the issue of abuse known through silentlambs.

  the hundreds of accounts given by victims explaining the foundation of why watchtower policy hurts children.

  the lawsuits now being enacted to make watchtower compensate those injured by their policy.

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  msil

  New Light: What do you say to a woman with 2 black eyes?
  Answer: Nothing: You already told her twice.

  This is approved in light of the article!!

  Signed: Governing body!!
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  questions for my elders

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here are some questions i have prepeared for my elders if and when they deside to visit me.. anymore you can suggest?.

  questions?.

  1. gentile times.. a. why do we believe in such a thing as the gentile times?

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  msil

  Sleepy,

  I guess what I am wondering is this:

  What are you trying to accomplish?

  Q1. Are you trying to get answers from the elders? You won't
  Q2. Are you trying to get DFed? You will.
  Q3 Are you trying to show them the error of what they believe? You won't be able to - they won't listen.
  Q4. Are you intent on just venting or slamming them? See Q2. If still yes then why wait for them to come and ask?

  In all likleihood you will not even get to ask them the questions because they will stop you from asking them before you even get a chance to start. This is a cult - deal with it accordingly.
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  Erica's Ritzville Trial Results

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well i hope this is the last chapter regarding the ritzville trial of manuel beliz.

  perhaps he now can become a statistic in the roles of sex offenders who go to jail for their crimes.

  as you may recall in the first hearing things were much different and intimidating to erica and her family.

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  msil

  Brother Belize is now a prison-bitch!!

  WTG SL
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  questions for my elders

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here are some questions i have prepeared for my elders if and when they deside to visit me.. anymore you can suggest?.

  questions?.

  1. gentile times.. a. why do we believe in such a thing as the gentile times?

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  yeah,

  "how soon will I be disfellowshipped?" - would be a good one.

  If you dont want to get DFed then shut up and fade
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  Special Meeting - New Work Announced

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is reported that a special meeting has been held of all the district overseers in the usa and the new york city circuit overseers at which it was announced that the field ministry would now be changed until further notice, effective immediately.

  for the time being no literature is to be offered or the suggested offer.

  the publishers are to advise each householder that due to recent events we are not engaging in our regular work, we are offering comfort where needed from the bible to help cope with the tragedy.

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  Norm,

  They are reprinting the one from March of this year.
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  US Cowards?

  by Kent in

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  2. friends

  will they be the ultimate cowards, and make the biggest asses in history of themselves, or will they tell the israelis to start behaving?.

  since 2 seconds after the first plane hit the wtc, the israelis has been busy running their own agenda - and they still are.

  the last, peace negotiations are off!.

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  msil

  Is it time for the FBI to give Kent his cavity search yet?