I should have just answered your question directly then added that reply. i am reading the NWT as a "bible" that is about it really. the reason that i replied the first time the way i did is because, if you can show me vast differences then i will use a different one, but this is the one i have. i wouldn't mind getting a copy with the apoc in the back, because i've seen them around.
cptkirk
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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cptkirk
from the perspective of an atheist who just thinks the whole thing is "interesting", is there even one scripture that you can show me (again from a non-believer standpoint) from NWT to any other translation that is *vastly* different? that a non-believer is going to say yea that is really different to the point that it affects the overall theme? the minute that i left the org i re-enrolled in college so i got more than enough to read right now.
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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Must have been a tale from the apochrypha? I've never read those books, have a hard time being motivated to read any of it anymore. seems like i pick it up couple pages then that is it. even if he was re-telling a story, i think especially taking it into consideration with matthew 17:3, that it is still odd, like there is room to discover something there.
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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Interesting reading. Also, this becomes even more interesting looking at Matthew 17:3. The NWT says that Matthew was written in 41ce and Jude in 61ce. So in Jude we have an archangel watching apparently as the devil looks to abscond with Moses body....and few chapters back in Matthew we have Moses actually appearing and roasting marshmallows with Jesus? When you consider how short the NT is, and you consider that the WT actually seems to embrace these scriptures (which is strange to me), doesn't this almost feel like the beginning of some kind of Da Vinci Code? The notion that Moses is up and walking around during Jesus time, when also according to the JW nobody of Moses time was anointed, therefore he would have no chance at being anointed (so the idea that he went to spirit form in their argument isn't even possible).....(citing scripture in greek scriptures that says something about nobody is greater than such and such if they were born after such and such time). I'm sure some people know the scripture that I'm talking about.
So, with that in mind, and then the fact that just out of the clear blue sky, the devil is hangin out again as if it's their saturday night poker game again....and michael is mad at the devil because he got drunk again and started trying to desecrate Moses (who was just up and walking around a few pages ago).....I'm telling you something is really wrong here, and it is made even more strange in the fact that the JWs of all people embrace these two scriptures when they basically contradict their entire understanding of the bible.
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Two Witnesses stuck in a elevator or car without Chaperon. Would they fornicate? Yes/No
by Witness 007 inim amazed how going witnessing sisters who knew me for decades would sit only in the back seat on the way to the hall...to avoid any sex at the traffic lights!!!
and chaperons 1840's style are needed because two witnesses alone for 10 minutes would go at it like animals even after all the training watchtower articles and talks being jahs clean org.
and all..
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cptkirk
This is definitely one of the worst witness rules. A grown man can't even be alone with his girlfriend, yea that is great. makes you wonder.
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Human beings can be a funny lot. You start a thread ,where did it go ?
by smiddy insurely most of you have had this experience at least once .
you start a topic / thread and before you know it somebody has taken it way off on another tangent, completely away from your original topic , and evrybody has gone down that path .and you come back and think wtf ?
happened here .?
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cptkirk
I like your perspective smiddy, those humans are rascals aren't they :P.
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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These guys were stoning people, but on a dime all of the sudden "he did not dare" to even speak an abusive word.
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More bewildering scriptures
by cptkirk ini'm pretty sure the wt folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived.
i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder.
it is jude verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms.
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cptkirk
I'm pretty sure the WT folks used this scripture to try and highlight some greater principle with regard to keeping ones mouth shut, but i don't think it was long lived. i've never heard any opinions on its meaning, only what i was told by 1 elder. it is JUDE verse 9. it basically says that michael was arguing with the devil about the usage of moses' dead body, but it becomes even more perplexing when the scripture says michael "did not *dare*" bring a judgement against him(the devil) in abusive terms. i have my own opinions on it (in terms of contextually contrasted against the scriptures as a whole), but would like to hear what some of the brains here would say.
some might say that this scripture is in line with the love your enemy line of thinking. an illustration to show that even the devil was not spoken of abusively while attempting to desecrate the dead body of moses.
the language is really bizarre though. "he did not dare" , that phraseology is very indicitive of fear concerning a larger power. as opposed to wording that would indicate an example of holding your tongue.because of how extreme the wording is, it seems to completely open it up to all kinds of interpretation.
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Reasoning check anyone?
by cptkirk ini really am trying to get work done but can't stop thinking about this stuff.
anyway, remember job?
remember what god said to satan about job?
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cptkirk
Well, lemme tell you something scary jgnat, it isn't, but guess who does see blessings in that light (in our time)? yea, those insane jihadists melting women's faces with real literal acid and blowing up babies.
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Reasoning check anyone?
by cptkirk ini really am trying to get work done but can't stop thinking about this stuff.
anyway, remember job?
remember what god said to satan about job?
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cptkirk
Haha yes thank you, you summed that up in the same way that I was thinking about it. here we have the 2 greatest entitites in the cosmos and the fate of billions of innocent men women and children in the balance....but this was the precision with which the war is conducted? yes i win again satan teehee you killed him, maybe next time. ohh yes here is my faithful servant daniel, ok this time satan please don't kill him again i mean gosh....btw daniel was the "head of the magic practicing priests" that is another gem to figure out.